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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 7:46 am    Post subject: I was reading about a murder case in Canada, Reply with quote

I was reading about a murder case in Canada, where the community was upset with law enforcement for response time , they didn’t read him rights

I don’t believe the guy got his attended victim , but somehow it feels the same , David Francis Cunningham Langham Canada,
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

After reading about Craig’s “drug rip off “ The only thing of any valve I can see missing from the cabin that three guys would want or that anyone could have been looking for …. was a 16 year old Girl, who was not their on a weekend.

Please forgive me Sassy … if I truly knew , I would do everything I could to help you.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don’t think that any of the victims who lost their life’s that night where the real target… just like the Canadian case that was in the Saskatoon news

I don’t believe in any “drug rip off” , more then likely it was someone who had their pride hurt, lost love …he was out with the guys on a weekend night , expecting someone to be home that night, and that sent him over the top … to make it worse he wasn’t given anything he wanted from Sue , maybe info on where her child was at.

More then likely if any of you where with anyone in the family that night you could have lost your life’s as well.

I am not here to make friends , but that place did leave an impact on me… thank you David
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 12:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So what do you know of Sassy's love life for me to get such a warning?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

David,

Please just come on out with it already. Quite beating around the bush and ask some more pointed questions...


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My point is ,I have no idea what Sassy”s love life was like , hell I don’t even know what Sues was like , exception for what you guys have told me… and I feel like you guys have done justice with Sue.

But in no way have you brought up Sassy”s love life.

She was sixteen years old with out a father around … I am not trying to judge her life , but if I was a betting man, and I am … I would bet that who ever she was dating was older then her, but not old enough to be out of that piss and vinegar stage.

Hell ,I don’t even know if she had any secret admirers , but I do know that about the age she was at , guys start to notice …

And I do know that a lot of teenage girls are also attracted to guys who would just give them the time of day.

“Little 15
Why does she have to defend
Her feelings inside
Why pretend
She's not had a life
A life of near misses
Now all that she wants
Is 3 little wishes
She wants to see with your eyes
She wants to smile with your smile
She wants a nice surprise
Every once in a while
Little 15”

This has the feeling of someone falling in love with a teenager and her mother trying to stop it…. all over it.**** Blind rage , someone who wasn’t alone , someone who was looking for something and the only thing missing was the teenager.****

To wipe out a family or anyone close

And in no way would I ever blame her , just like I wouldn’t ever blame Justin or any of the children


And once again I feel like I have a target around my neck , because of CW Mutts warnings … to hell with that , they need closure.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:50 am    Post subject: my thoughts Reply with quote

i don't believe a big drug deal had any thing to do with the muders,,,,,,i don't think there was any plans are targets made before the muders,....i think that night, marty and his friends, was on a trip from using drugs.....when he got into a fight withe the owner of the bar, probely mad at marilyn for not getting sue to go, and sue herself for refusing to go out with bo....[knowiing how he felt about women] he was very angery......i believe when he and his friends were out side the back door discusing the situation, of how and what should be done about a female like that ....his thoughts escolated from anger to deadly....think in that state of mind the plans were made of what to do and were carried out.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:24 pm    Post subject: Marty & Bo Reply with quote

Mrs. Meeks & Craig - we go over this stuff time and time again. It all has merit. However, when we get to the Tina part, then all our theories fall apart.

How would Marty and Bo have kept Tina? And if the newspaper article was correct and she had only been dead for 6 to 8 months (this is a pretty big if) when she was found - where was she the other 2 years? Both Marty and Bo were long gone.

We are missing a connection somewhere.........

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 28, 2006 12:14 pm    Post subject: to salem Reply with quote

the news paper didn't have that infro in it... sassy made that statment to me early in the investagation.right after they found tina's remains... that the investagaters had informed her of it.....later she said . she doesn't remember telling me that, but at that time so much infro was comming down she didn't remember all of it , that she may have said it....LaRonda was with us at that time...she also remembers sassy making that statment.... so draw your own conclution...

if marty did take her , that doesn't mean that tina was up at the falls all that time ,,,he could have taken her with him, , or one of the others could have had her..and taken to the falls later...just my thoughts
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 1:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait, you mean it said that at the time she was found she'd only been dead for 6 to 8 mos? And they found the bones a few yrs later right? They wouldn't be able to tell how long she'd been dead. I mean, they might be able to say they'd found a adolescent or a grown up. They wouldn't be able to pin it down that close. I think Sassy said she was told that. She didn't say that it was fact. Just something someone told her. As so much of what we know is just things we've been told.
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ps, Saley, when you coming to visit again? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just looked up whether or not you can determine time of death using only the bones and you can. a lot of people use the bugs that are present and work backwords. the most crucial thing though is the whether. a body can decompose down to the bone in 2 days if under the sun during summer. so i think the statement about tina being dead for 6-8 months could be a fact.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 7:41 pm    Post subject: Timing Reply with quote

Hey Guys - this information was in a newspaper article. I will find the article and get the info out, but it might take me a week or two. I have ordered some research information. I'll let you know what I find.

PP - not sure when I will be back up that way again - probably late Spring or early Summer (if Spring ever gets here!)

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Salem- Yay! call me if/when you do.

SP31204-If I remember correctly, and there's a good chance I haven't!,
I think that article said that she'd been killed 6-8 mos after the murders.
Now that doesn't make much sense and so therein lies the/my cornfusion....
If that was the case, they wouldn't be able to figure that out. But yes you
are correct about them being able to tell 6-8 mos after someone is killed/dead.
Ya know, I think I have that article, I'm not at home now so I'll check when
I get there.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 31, 2006 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh ok i get what your saying.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PP - you may be right. I may have it backwards. I can't find the article. So either she was killed 6 to 8 months after the murders

or

she was killed 6 to 8 months before she was found.

I will find the article and we will clear this up. It does make a big difference.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll check my stuff, too, tomorrow when I get off of work....
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 12:45 pm    Post subject: to mr. shitemachi Reply with quote

i was just reading back on the post and i run across yours on mar. 27....some how i messed it .when you posted it....i don't know who in the hell you think you are...who are you to judg and incenuate on something you don't know nothing about ..... it isn't any of your dam bunisse are any one elses either...if she had a love life....apparenty ypu don't know her or you wouldn't be saying things ..like i read.....it's a pretty low life person for any one to state something like you did or even to plant a seed as to spread that kind of romer toward amy young .person girl or boy......it's no wander every one wants to quite this site....it's because of things like you....hasn't sassy had enough trama in her life that you have to add to it....sassy if you do get back to this site, don't pay an attention to this garbage of a person .... and to you mr. shitamachi , your name fits....your nothing but a piece of shit....sounds like somthing marty would say ...same kind of a dirty mind ......sorry people i don't like low lifes like that
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 11:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Grandma,
you do not need to lower yourself to all of these people....... you are a much better lady than that....... one of the best things you can do is just avoid the site like dad and other people are........... you didnt have to put up with these inmature people!!

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 1:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 5:10 pm    Post subject: tomy grandson Reply with quote

thanks for putting me in check.....iwant to apolagise to you and all you good people out there but i got so ngery....when i was around tinas age...well 10...one of those younger/older men...40 or so...manage to get hold of me...when the truth came out, his excuse was ...well she wanted me[sexually that is] yea right1...wrong!!!....not such a good foundation for a kid that young .....usually has a bad affect on them for years. or maybe the rest of their lives....

thanks again grandson ....andi will try to keep myself in rein from now on
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

craig the only reason i dont think the drugs was the reason for their death is because you are alive. if they killed them because they stole drugs then i guarantee they would kill you. those are my owns thoughts though.
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