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Lulu4justice




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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 11:58 pm    Post subject: Let's get this started again Reply with quote

Hi everyone, I have a very keen and personal interest in this story for many reasons, which i will share later if appropriate. I am wondering if there is much interest in this site still, or this cause? I want to know as much as I can so I can really critically analyze the sityuation and would greatly appreciate any guidance towards research. i have read all of the posts, and understand a bit about the main suspects (Marty and Bo), but heard reference to more info. and would like to see it. I will tell you this much. I lived in Quincy, and frequented Keddie. I was close friends with a close relative of one of the victims. I am most definitely NOT here to bash Quincy or Keddie. To me, this is the most beautiful, peaceful serene area in the world. Where else can you visit a natural hotspring by a river with a bank full of snow (which isn't free anymore, arghh!!), dive off of 30 foot cliffs into crystal clear water (Spanish or Indian Falls), drive to a dormant volcano at the top of a mountain that is breathtaking and deep with freezing water (Crystal lake), see bald eagles dive for fish as the evening or morning fog rolls in (Snake Lake), crystal hunt along the ridges and find 5 inch clear crystals just popping out of the ground.......and there is so much more. I want to help peace and closure come to this story, for all.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes good post

I'm new here and although I've never been to the area and was not even born when this atrocity occured I've taken an interest in this case (noticed from a zodiac website) and am looking for some basic info

1.Who's Marty and Bo? Why are they the main suspects what leads everyone to that? Who is Justin and who is Marilyn? I'm sorry, I know these are very basic questions...I have heard and read these names thrown about...just a little background info would be helpful.

2.also in the timeline section on this website, it says a jacket with one of the young ladie's blood was found under marty's (?) house....wouldn't that be amazingly incriminating evidence that he had something to do with it?

3.any other suspects?

4.are the pictures of the suspects considered legit? or the boy was too young...how old was he when this happened?

5.Why is there no info on this case on the internet and none on tv? I mean this is the only website....very difficult to get anything which is sad...it would help bring the perpetrators to justice or at least help people understand what happened.

6.Where can I get the DVD documentary? and is there any books written about the Keddie Murders?


I hope some day the victims families will have their justice or any closure they can get....I can't imagine going through what they did....sooo sad.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh i forgot to sign in....this is my user name Requiem
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello and welcome Lulu and Requiem,

This is a very interesting case and I'm sorry that you couldn't get in on the original message board as it has contained much information. We did lose lots of previous messages that were posted on this site as well. How are you doing on that, Jesse? Are you going to get those back up for us?

Requiem, let me try to answer some of your questions: Marty lived in the Keddie area at the time of the murders. He was married to Marilyn whose son was Justin. Justin was staying the night at the cabin the night of the murders and it is thought he is a witness to this crime. According to some of the people that knew Marty, he was one creepy bastard. He seemed to be a very mean spirited individual that used drugs and disrespected women. It is said that there was a jacket under his house or playhouse that belonged to Tina that had blood on it. There have been many things said. Whether some of these things are actually true remains to be seen. We're all just throwing stuff out there. Some of it is heresay. I have not seen the police report, however, there might be some people on this board that have...

There have been many other suspects named in this case. There does seem to be ample evidence and why this crime wasn't solved is the biggest mystery to me.

Justin was about 12, I believe, at the time of the murders and they're not putting a lot of stock in his descriptions used for the composite sketches. It is said in the documentary that the composites resemble Marty and Bo. Bo was Marty's friend and housemate at the time of the murders. They're both Viet Nam vets and met, of all places, in a VA mental hospital. There is so much more to this case, however, I don't think I can recount it all here.

You might want to contact Jesse, via private message to find out how to order the documentary.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:10 pm    Post subject: Mew members Reply with quote

Hello and Welcom,
Thanks for the answer Blueskyes. unfortunatly I will not be getting back the deleted part of the message board but this is a good tome to make a fresh start. There were alot of negitive comments and pointless arguing in the deleted messages that will not be tlarated here anymore.

As for Thnas Jacket, I have not got any concreat evidance that her jacket was indeed found or recovered. I did hear directly from marylin that the jacked was retreved by police but she said Justin and Tina were always around eachother and it could have been simply left there. She did not mention blood on it.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lulu,

Is your keen and personal interest in this story because of your friendship with one of the victim's relatives, or is it because of something else? You said that you would share that with us...


I have never lived in the Quincy or Keddie area. But I have been there and I do agree it is very beautiful. It would be even more beautiful if we removed this dark cloud that has hung over it for a quarter of a century. Wouldn't you all agree?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 2:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

was/is Keddie just a resort? or is it a small town?

are there any pictures of Marty/Bo?

It's amazing that nobody heard anything....do you think whoever these two people were welcomed in at first (the victims knew them) and then they were quickly knocked out and then the horror began, something like that? That would explain the lack of screaming....I cannot believe how brutal it was, just from what I've read....awful

Justin was 12!?? I thought he was just a little boy....you would think he would remember at age 12 quite a bit of what happened....although it was such a traumatic event that a lot of it I suppose was blocked out....does he remember if he was in the room where the killing took place or peeking out the bedroom....it's bizarre the kids were left alone....did anyone go in to see them or what? nobody woke up? insane...

I don't see why the webmaster or somebody who knows and lives there oculdn't get the police report and other information....unless the police are hiding something
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

that sounds very plausible

I find it hard to believe a random stranger would stop in this remote town and savagely butcher these poor people with no motive

Bent Knife!???? wtf!?

who's lee?

craig do those pictures look those sick mo fo's marty and bo?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for answering my questions blue skies

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Dear Craig,

I never said that I didn't suspect Marty and Bo. But a lot of that stuff you stated in your response to me is again, heresay. Not all of it, but a lot of it. If all those things were factual then yes, Marty and Bo are looking pretty darn guilty aren't they. Well, if they're looking THAT guilty then why in the hell not weren't those guys arrested?!!!

I'm just keeping an open mind. You can't believe everything you hear, now can you? You allegedly read the police report, didn't you? Then will you please tell us some FACTS?

Now according to Jesse there wasn't any blood on Tina's jacket and the jacket could have been there simply because she was a good friend of Justin's, hot because the murderers took her there. This is just one example of how things are said that may not be true...
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another thing...

Marty sure sounded like a detestable and scary creep of a man. Maybe some people back then would have really liked to see him behind bars.

And, Requiem, you're welcome.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want to let yo uknow that everything we know about Tinas Jacket and Blood on it has not been proven, not to me anyway. As far as the police hiding somthing wel in every investagation there will always be stuffed not released to the public to protect the investagation. I strongly do not belive there is a cover up by the PCSO (Plumas county Sherrifs office) at all. Keddie was a small resort community, it is off th emain highway and there are a couple small blocks of small (appx.400-700 SQ FT) cabins. there is a Lodge with a restraunt and a big Dorm when you first enter.
All the town is pretty much abandon these days
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hiya Craig, to answer your query, why I think it may not have been
M and B...Not that I don't believe you and the Meeks's but it's only been
yous guys that have named them. Everyone else I've spoken with had
never heard of them or named completely different people. So I have to
wonder. My brain likes to look at all
sides and hear all sides and think in all ways. I almost wish it wasn't
M and B b/c they are dead and someone should pay for these crimes.
Oh, also the cops don't think it was them.

But please don't think I think you or anyone else is making stuff up. B/c
I don't. (who the hell am I to judge anyway!) And also Craig,
how the heck have you been?? It's snowing like cats and dogs
up here! Sorry I haven't been around much. I'll pm you soon Cool

Req, did your question about what is Keddie get answered enough? I'll
explain it more if you want. And Bluey, I had a answer for you too but
I'd have to go back and find out what it was and I'm at work and I gotta
go! I'll read again later and write the stuff down.

Oh, Req, I've asked to see the police report and was told I couldn't see it.
I don't know if all police reports are confidential or just it is confidential b/c it's an
on going case. The paper didn't name anyone. I went to the library and
copied the articles. Sent them to Jesse. Every one I ask about it has thier
own ideas about what happend. A lot of it is just distant memory at this
point and remembered rumours. The consensus is "drugs were involved"
tho we could have guessed that. Keddie and Quincy are distantly tainted by
that incident. Unless you sit and talk to people about it or go to Keddie and
think about what happend, then one gets the willies and/or sadness and/or angry.
But other than that, for _most_ of us, those of us not directly effected,
Quincy and Keddie are lovely places to visit and live. Ok, gotta go work!
Be Safe All, Pink Panther
ps, I don't think it was a cover up. IMHO
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So Keddie is considered a city but it's really just a very small resort area? Does the limits go outside that area? Where's Quincy? How big is that? I'm from LA, lived here all my life, I dunno these small towns! Smile

who's Lee?

Also if that Justin guy was 12 when he witnessed this, unless he suffered some serious trauma (absolutely understandable), OR he's covering up for his this Marty fella who was techincally his step father? Perhaps Justin was threatened? 12 years old though I would expect a lot clearer memory. When I first read about the case, I thought he was like a toddler. Also Craig brings up a good point that perhaps Justin was set up to sleep over there that night and that gave Marty a good reason to quietly enter the home and no one would think this odd

oh and I asked about the police report because I know in other big time cases like the Zodiac every police report is available...of course that was a more famous case, bigger city, more killings, but there's so much information out there over at zodiackiller.com too bad we can't get that here....but I admire the guy who set this site up and trying to find justice for these horrific acts.

finally how big was the cabin?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

okay it's clear now

thanks Craig
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