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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 2:16 pm    Post subject: What about the younger kids? Reply with quote

I'm kind of wondering about the little kids how they went "untouched" it doesnt make sense to me as to how they went untouched but everyone else was killed so horribly.

This is just me but I think the kids could have some involvement, I mean there was a news story just the other week of a class of third graders who were trying to kill their teacher because she gave a student time out.
It was planned quite horrifyingly.

Anyone else see where i'm coming from? Might sound crazy I know but just sticks out at me for some reason.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's an interesting suggestion, and survivors of something like this are alkways looked at. But in this case, I consider this a non-starter. At least as far as Ricky and Greg go. I cannot elaborate.

Any sick SOB who would have considered adding Ricky and Greg to the mix could never have lasted this long in the open.

We don't even know the events that really caused Tina to go missing. Or WHEN she went missing. It is possible that if she had been in the bedroom, she may not have been taken.

As far as Justin goes, I have absolutely no comment. He is on his own in this one. Suffice to say that if I had something to say, it would not be pretty.
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PostPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think the younger children theory is plausible, however i believe that this case is nothing more then another Black Dahlia at this point
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PostPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 1:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I beg your pardon, but what kind of two-bit comment is that?

I used to get crapped on quite often for talking in riddles. What's sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's neither a two-bit comment nor a riddle. Maybe a simple web search before commenting and you could have put together a better reply. For those that prefer dumbed-down information, Wikipedia has a basic write-up.
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wait
cabin 28 on wikepedia
lol
got to see this
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PostPosted: Thu May 08, 2008 9:58 pm    Post subject: Mister minus eight Reply with quote

Hey moron, that post is just what I say it is.

You're putting apples with grapefruit. And who knows how many of each?

Last time I looked, I wasn't even three years old when Black Dahlia went down. And they're still talking about it.........................
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

huh
you calling me a moron or someone else?
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

craig wrote:
huh
you calling me a moron or someone else?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afX6VYn48KE
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig, did I address that to you?

Please read the last line. Where did you mention that???

Instead of piocking on things I say, maybe you should devote some time to repairing your image.
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PostPosted: Wed May 14, 2008 3:02 pm    Post subject: The younger kids Reply with quote

I believe it was said that at least one of the younger kids saw the attackers because that was how the police made those sketches. I'm a little confused about the ages of the boys and which one or ones actually saw whoever did it. I'm guessing Justin did see something because of the story of his acting out a stabbing afterwards.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Justin claimed to have seen them. Ricky and Greg do not. Justin was 12 at the time, Ricky was 9 and Greg was 5.

The sketches are supposedly from Justin's descriptions and were done by a gentleman by the name of Harlan Embry, sent over by the Reno Police Dept.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 11:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the answer! That brings up the question of how Justin saw them and they didn't see him and if they did, why didn't they harm him? He wasn't much younger than Tina and he would be a witness! It doesn't make sense. Initially I was under the impression that all the boys were a lot younger. I figured maybe the attackers couldn't stomach hurting little ones. At the ages you mentioned I can't imagine they didn't try to climb out the window and run unless they chose to hide because they were scared. I can't believe they didn't hear it. That kind of violence in complete quiet? Unlikely. It does seem very personal when you look at the amount of overkill. Those poor kids!Sad I hope they are doing ok now.
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Justin was actually older by an year as Tina
was 11 years old and justin liked Tina as we
know of and there was some type of puppy love thing
going on.

we are thinking, since justin was marty's step son
that he was not touched and the other two younger
sharp boys..ricky and greg did not see them and
was too young to testify so they were left alone.

Valley..i have nothing to repair in here and dont need to
or want to as many are not worth the spit on the bottom
of my shoe to do so

i am alot higher up in education and social structure to not
even bother with some of these hillbillies and shioot talkers
on here!

who cares
i know the truth and i am telling the truth
so really what fooking image are you talking about?
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

craig wrote:
Justin was actually older by an year as Tina
was 11 years old and justin liked Tina as we
know of and there was some type of puppy love thing
going on.

we are thinking, since justin was marty's step son
that he was not touched and the other two younger
sharp boys..ricky and greg did not see them and
was too young to testify so they were left alone.

Valley..i have nothing to repair in here and dont need to
or want to as many are not worth the spit on the bottom
of my shoe to do so

i am alot higher up in education and social structure to not
even bother with some of these hillbillies and shioot talkers
on here!

who cares
i know the truth and i am telling the truth
so really what fooking image are you talking about?

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4861399&page=1
What if a town held you responsible for everything that when wrong one person at a time? Maybe your luck ran out
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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

craig wrote:
Justin was actually older by an year as Tina
was 11 years old and justin liked Tina as we
know of and there was some type of puppy love thing
going on.

we are thinking, since justin was marty's step son
that he was not touched and the other two younger
sharp boys..ricky and greg did not see them and
was too young to testify so they were left alone.

"We are thinking"? What's this "we" crap? Speak for your own self! You have yet to prove your intelligence is above the level of a socially depraved 7th grader with acne! put a cork in it!
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

well sonny boy
obviusly you cant prove my intelligence is not
140 IQ either and that im not smart
so touche'
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 6:10 pm    Post subject: Is this about Cabin 28??? Reply with quote

I thought this was about a tragic event at Keddie Resort Cabin 28. I do not think bickering shows respect for the victims or survivors.
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

it does not lady bug
but these assholes like to argue and bicker and accuse
people of shioot anyways
get use to it
i have left the forum a few times because of it
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Valley Flyer wrote:
It's an interesting suggestion, and survivors of something like this are alkways looked at. But in this case, I consider this a non-starter. At least as far as Ricky and Greg go. I cannot elaborate.

Any sick SOB who would have considered adding Ricky and Greg to the mix could never have lasted this long in the open.

We don't even know the events that really caused Tina to go missing. Or WHEN she went missing. It is possible that if she had been in the bedroom, she may not have been taken.

As far as Justin goes, I have absolutely no comment. He is on his own in this one. Suffice to say that if I had something to say, it would not be pretty.


I thought Justin was one of the toddlers rescued? Am I missing something?
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 9:37 am    Post subject: Carolyn2008... Reply with quote

The papers said toddlers but they were not toddlers. I do not know if that was because they did not want the murderers to know about the ages of the survivors or what. It might of been one of the facts that the PCSD did not want printed. If the murderer(s) thought they had a witness they would of came after them. I think that was why PCSD let it be said toddlers. Of course I have not seen mentioned that protection was ever offered to Justin. You would of thought that the PCSD or the FBI would of wanted to be sure Justin was safe to testify at a trail.

My understanding of Keddie is it is a place like most of never been or lived. It was a "closed" community in one sense. It might be bad taste but clannish is a good way to explain it. Ever heard stories of mountain folk, like in KY or WV that would shoot you and ask questions later if you strayed off the main routes??? I get the sensation that is what is was/is like there from the comments on this board. I could be wrong but compiling everything on here takes a long time. You need to graphs... one for established fact and one for unconfirmed information. Even then it is a fuzzy picture at best.
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HILLBILLY MENTALITY YOU MEAN
S'REEEEEEEEE IS
CUZ
S'RE ISSSSSSS
ya'll come back to hills
and get some coon roadkill and possum stew
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PostPosted: Wed May 21, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Craig... Reply with quote

What in the world have you been smoking???
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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to Gypsey2 and Richard's mother, Justin was taken into protective custody. Don't know for how long. Found that info in the below threads.

Tina's Body thread:
"Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 10:03 am by Gypsey2
I also found out
on Easter (talking to Justin) that Marty took my boys with him down there. He thinks it was before the
murders. Actually, it had to have been because Justin was taken into protective custody after the murders."

People on the Edges thread: Posted by Gypsey2
"Posted: Tue Aug 08, 2006 9:29 pm I heard that way back when, Doug T. was accused of molesting his daughters ( of them). I never heard whether he was charged or if he was convicted. My understanding at the time was, the statute of limitations had run out. Hope I have'nt offended anyone. Also it was Doug T. who placed Justin into protective custody (if you want to call it that), and did some of the hypnosis theropy."


Answers Wanted thread:
Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2008 5:42 pm
"she did tell me after we started this web sight, which was a yr. are so ago,
that after the police took justin into protective custody, was out at madow vally, that marty did see justin. justin was out side and marty was across the creek. i don't know how true this is, but that's what she told me.

richards mother"

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PostPosted: Thu May 22, 2008 6:56 am    Post subject: Not sure... Reply with quote

Thank you Not Sure. I am still reading and started compiling a data base to keep things straight.

This is OFF TOPIC but related to the posts listed. I have not researched in California but in Ohio there is no statute of limitations on sexual crimes. Of course it cannot be a she said/he said. There must be proof.
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