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PostPosted: Wed May 03, 2006 11:04 pm    Post subject: catching up Reply with quote

hello every one.....i'm back from my llittle vacation.....have some catching up to do....reading the post and have a few things to say....will go by the post as when i try writing some times me or my bird hit something to wipe it out and have to rewrite it all over again...so i'm doing it a little at a time

a few questions for gypsay2......

usuallly i have a very open mind about things......but i think mary did these murders...and no one will convince me other wise......until they can show me the prooff.......gypsaey you know, some times when i was at your house how marty would say nasty things about sue...AND TINA....you were there....your remember that crazy man that came to my house, suposely from reno....acting like a caged animal [high on somthing]....how he wanted me to take him to keddie....that he had to finish something he had started...and it had to be done that night.....we listson to that crap for 2=3 hours ......and when i wouldn't...he left sometime around 4 o'clock in the night....you remember how marty stood across the street from my house...[several nights,] ...that night, and jim set by the door all night, with a gun across his lap... that jim had went out to see marty the day after the murders and saw marty burning up a pair of shoes, justens i suspect ......no open mind as far as i'm concered...sorry...
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 12:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what kind of things were they saying?
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 1:17 am    Post subject: still catching up Reply with quote

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wade was friends with dee lake and his frist wife, mona.....he did not like marty....the only reason he went over to your house, gypsey, was bcause dee would go to there and wade would just tag along.....

matters of the heart...

to david....craigs "wounds' as you put it......happened several months after the murders, when he got beat up.......he was not a close friend of my family......he didn't hang around with sues or my family, never.....he was a friend of my daughter and her husband....never at my house......

gypsey ..... when marty came to my house the day after the murders, there were 3 people in the car, marty, bo and dee lake....he told you he was going to reno for carparts.....he told wade he was taking bo to the vets mental hospil ....when you and wade went back to your house later that day he said you and he went down to the bastment , there were needles..[drugs]..all over the place.........i don't remember if justen was at my house the day of the murders

i'm sure juesten did see what was going on at sues house......he saw who was doing the killings....he went back in the bed room and put a chair under the door knob......there was bloody smers on the door, where some one tryed to get in...

when the men came from sack.or so they told me...to my house to quesstion me ...was after they had taken justen away...i ask them what justen had told them....they replied with ' he thought he was having a dream about the love.boat......that they couldn't get him hipmotised deep enough to get much out of him....i think thats a bunch of bunk...he knew who did it and they messed his mind up when they hipmatised him
i think it should be done again but by some one who knows what they are doing....

i don't think tina was molested before the murders,.....but i do think she was taken for that reason......i don't think marty went to reno at all. but think they may have taken her to fether falls that day and left her and maybe bo there...one reason, you donn't get high like he was at a hospital....

wade was tzken to jail about 2 weeks after the murders.....not on a dui but for reckless driving....marty was there. ..he yelled at wade saying 'you know what happen to the others, and i can do it to you....

it's late and i need to get to bed. ... will do more tomorrow
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 1:17 am    Post subject: still catching up Reply with quote

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wade was friends with dee lake and his frist wife, mona.....he did not like marty....the only reason he went over to your house, gypsey, was bcause dee would go to there and wade would just tag along.....

matters of the heart...

to david....craigs "wounds' as you put it......happened several months after the murders, when he got beat up.......he was not a close friend of my family......he didn't hang around with sues or my family, never.....he was a friend of my daughter and her husband....never at my house......

gypsey ..... when marty came to my house the day after the murders, there were 3 people in the car, marty, bo and dee lake....he told you he was going to reno for carparts.....he told wade he was taking bo to the vets mental hospil ....when you and wade went back to your house later that day he said you and he went down to the bastment , there were needles..[drugs]..all over the place.........i don't remember if justen was at my house the day of the murders

i'm sure juesten did see what was going on at sues house......he saw who was doing the killings....he went back in the bed room and put a chair under the door knob......there was bloody smers on the door, where some one tryed to get in...

when the men came from sack.or so they told me...to my house to quesstion me ...was after they had taken justen away...i ask them what justen had told them....they replied with ' he thought he was having a dream about the love.boat......that they couldn't get him hipmotised deep enough to get much out of him....i think thats a bunch of bunk...he knew who did it and they messed his mind up when they hipmatised him
i think it should be done again but by some one who knows what they are doing....

i don't think tina was molested before the murders,.....but i do think she was taken for that reason......i don't think marty went to reno at all. but think they may have taken her to fether falls that day and left her and maybe bo there...one reason, you donn't get high like he was at a hospital....

wade was tzken to jail about 2 weeks after the murders.....not on a dui but for reckless driving....marty was there. ..he yelled at wade saying 'you know what happen to the others, and i can do it to you....

it's late and i need to get to bed. ... will do more tomorrow
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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 8:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could anyone please look into the VA hospital thing? Did the police check with the hospital in Reno to see if in fact Bo was there the day after the murders?

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PostPosted: Thu May 04, 2006 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm glad to see you back on the board. I don't remember Jim going out to the cabin after the incident. And I don't recall Jim seeing Marty burning a pair of shoes. Maybe you can refresh my memory.

Wasn't it the PCSD that took Justin's shoes? If so, how did Marty get them back? Did they come to your house to get the shoes originally? That's what I remember. Please help me out here, we need honesty and should'nt be concerned about how our posts look to other people. I was 34 years old and used pretty poor judgement back then. We need to try to put this case to rest and bring closure to everyone closest to the case.

I don't recall any drugs or needles in the basement. Marty ( at least to my knowledge) used pills and smoked pot. How do you know there was a chair placed under the door knob?

Thank you for clearing up the timeline that Wade & Blaine took me back out to the cabin. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 6:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gypsey2 if you remember right jim had went woodcuting with marty a couple of times privious to the murders...i think that may have been the reason of hm going out to your house that morning....i don't know if it was before or after we knew about the murders.....they didn't go wood cuting ......when he got home he told me that there were cop cars all around sues house....that marty was outside burning leaves and there was a pair of men shoes in the fire....i don't know if they were justens or not

you and wade went out to your house [i didn't know blaine went with you] ...... when you got back you told me that there was a bloody hammer and a sack with blood on it down in your basement....i ask wade about this a couple of months ago he said he didn't remember hammer but did recall that there was hypo needles laying all over the room ,,lots of them...

when joush was makeing the flim, sassey was down here also....she was allowed to go through the room at the ploice station where all of the evadences of the murder case was.....it was on a report that justen [or soneone] had put a chair under the door knob in the room where the kids were.....and there was bood smered on the outside of the door...like someone had been trying to go in there

have you had a chance to go back to keddie, you know, i will take you if you havdn't gone yet, just give me a call
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PP and I plan on going to Keddie today (this afternoon). I do recall the burning of leaves and something about shoes be burned. Was I out there when Jim came out to the cabin? I do remember Marty and Jim going out to cut wood a few times. I can remember not having wood and the hillside for any kind of wood to burn.

Was I still out there when Jim came out? When did I come in to your house? Was Justin and Casey with me when I was brought to your house?

I still don't recall any needles in the basement. I don't recall a hammer either. I do recall a small red jacket in the basement and was asked if it was Tina's. I did'nt know for sure. It could have belonged to any of kids out there.

Who moved me out of the cabin? I'm almost sure it was Wade and Blaine who took me out there to get some clothing. I just don't remember how long after the incident. I do remember when we got there the police showed up and asked to if they could check my cabin. I also showed them the playhouse. It was covered with f... you Marty and such thing as that. It was painted with black spray paint. It was then that I noticed the floor boards pulled up in the playhouse. I told the police about it. They asked me if it had been like that before, I said "no".
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matters of the hearts i know of no one that was aggressive towards sue...know she had been ask several timesd to go out with bo, but don't think there was never any aggerssivness, not until the murders, if that was indeed apart of the motive for the killings...

and david...what is this "how someone can have their best fiernds family murdered..the shame..and creigs wounds.....

if you are incenuating what i think you are......don't even go there

and yes, richard was the father of sheilas baby....but there was no shame...not on my part nor sues either ...they were just kids, mistakes were made.....i'm not saying it was alright but there was never any hatered or resentment between us over it....yes i was disappointed..i wanted to keep the baby and raise it until the kids were old enough to take responbitlly of her themselves...but that was not to be...was sad
and criegs ....he wasn't around
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

you had to have been there when jim went out there......i didn't go and get you and the boys until after i heard about the murders......i think it was just wade and you the frist time you went back out there...and marty was in reno... i don't know who moved you out but i think it was a day are two later that you showed the police the cub house.....laronda also agrees with you about the boards being pulled up
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

gypsey im sorry about missing last tues. i just read the message.
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

richards mother wrote:
matters of the hearts if you are incenuating what i think you are......don't even go there

and yes, richard was the father of sheilas baby....but there was no shame...not on my part nor sues either ...they were just kids, mistakes were made.....i'm not saying it was alright but there was never any hatered or resentment between us over it....yes i was disappointed..i wanted to keep the baby and raise it until the kids were old enough to take responbitlly of her themselves...but that was not to be...was sad
and criegs ....he wasn't around


Why hide behind them?

Your only going to help bring out truths , correct


richards mother wrote:
hello every one.....i'm back from my llittle vacation.....have some catching up to do....reading the post and have a few things to say....will go by the post as when i try writing some times me or my bird hit something to wipe it out and have to rewrite it all over again..


Did you know when you said you where on vacation, someone logged into your user id a number of times over those Days.
I thought it was funny you went on vacation at that moment
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must have been in shock! Can shock do that to a person? I can't even remember moving my stuff out of the cabin or if I just left everything. I must have gotten some of it though because, I have the kids' birth certificates. I wish Wade could get on the board. Maybe he could answer some of my questions. He could come on as a guest if he does'nt want other people to know who he is. Maybe you can talk to him. He could answer some questions about Dee also, and why he did'nt like Marty.
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:23 pm    Post subject: Attacking people Reply with quote

Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Sassy if you feel I am attacking you , I am trying to find out what’s been told to you all of these years.
I will leave, good luck to you
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 2:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad to see you back on the board Sassy. You are right! It does'nt matter who signed on when richards' mom was gone. Who knows, they may have had something to contribute as a guest or anonymous. That's ok in my book. Hope you are doing well. I am hoping to make a trip up to see Justin this month but I have to watch my finances. Good luck kiddo Very Happy in whatever you do. The good Lord will make things right in his time.

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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can someone explain the shoutbox is about and what it's purpose is? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri May 05, 2006 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was also wondering that very same thing. I think David has found it to be quite an outlet for himself.
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 2:09 am    Post subject: to dvid Reply with quote

my son has a computer and i did get on the site a couple of times while on vacation....and if you notice i don't log ot most of the time

im not hiding behind any body.....i just don't think it's any ones business..about our personal life.....it didn't have any thing to do with the murders...so why do you say that
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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

richards mom; You can't really honestly say that your personal life had nothing to do with what happened in Keddie. I was Martys' wife at the time and have to live with the fact that he and his friends could have done this horrible thing. I also have to live with the fact that I walked by that house that night and did'nt hear or see anything. I have to live with the fact that my son was a guest in that house that night and could have been killed or worse witnessed the whole or part of all that happened in that cabin. No One knows everything,about the people around us ,24/7. All of us have experienced someone who has not been honest with us at on time or another. Needless to say sometimes we are in shock an awe over some things we find out later. So my private life is open because I was married to one of the prime suspects. I do wonder though, how many others were suspect too, and who are they. Why were they suspect. Is there anyone out there that would agree? Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun May 07, 2006 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do agree. Richards Mother please understand that when personial questions are asked it is because a good majority of us on here did not know the Sharps. I belive that getting familliar with the victems and people involved in there life at the time is important to solving this. I honestly dont think, no matter what happend back then; 25 years ago that anyone on here is going to look down on you, your family or friends, the Sharps, or anyone for that matter. I dont agree with accussing people of things or how some members go about asking there questions but I do belive it is all out of we want ot help solve this. I hope this makes sense.
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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 9:49 am    Post subject: GO TO HELL DAVID....KISS MY a**e Reply with quote

heya guys
this is craig
im been trying not to get into david shioot
and yeah david just stop damn it as you done
enough damage as it is and your just making
it worse by opening your mouth where you dont
know what your talking about..UNLESS YOU WERE THERE
OR THERE AT QUINCY AT THE TIME THEN YOU REALLY
SHOULD NOT BE ACUSSING PEOPLE OF SHIOT DAVID.!

I DONT KNOW HOW MUCH MARTY, BO AND LEE WAS REALLY
SUSPECTED OF THIS BEFORE I CAME ON AND GAVE ALL
THIS INFO AND THINGS STARTED COMING OUT ABOUT
THEM....I CAN ASK YOU MEEKS, MARLYN AND SHELIA IF YOU
REALLY THOUGHT LIKE NOW THAT MARTY AND THEM DID
THIS HORRIBLE THING BEFORE I EVEN CAME OUT WITH
THIS INFO AND HOW STRONG WERE THOSE FEELINGS?
I AM NOT TRYING TO GET CREDIT FOR TURNING THIS
CASE AROUND IF IT IS BUT TRYING TO GET A PICTURE
OF WHAT THE FEELINGS AND SUSPICIONS WERE OF
MARTY, BO AND LEE. THIS GOES WHAT YOU GUYS BEEN
TALKING ABOUT THE THE EVENTS AND MARLYN FEELINGS
THAT SHE REALLY THINK MARTY DID THIS HORRIBLE THING.

OK..ALSO DID YOU FEEL AS STRONG BACK THEN THEY DID IT
AS YOU FEEL NOW.. THEY MARTY, BO AND LEE DID THIS AND
WHY DO YOU FEEL DIFFERENT IF YOU DO? I AM REALLY TRYING
TO GET A FEEL HOW YOU GUYS FELT BACK THEN AND I KNOW
HOW YOU FEEL NOW.

I HOPE THESE QUESTIONS ARE NOT TOO PERSONAL AND I AM
JUST TRYING TO FIND SOME THINGS OUT.

--CRAIG--
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Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil

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PostPosted: Mon May 08, 2006 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes! I feel just as strong today as I did back then. My reasons are as follows:

#1; The arguement Marty had with Jan that night. This made him very angry.


#2; He was angry that Sue would'nt go with us to the lounge. He did'nt like women to begin with.

#3; He did'nt like teenagers. He thought they were smart alecs', and had nothing to offer society.

#4; The disapearance of the two suits.

#5; The strange way Marty acted the next day.

#6; The way he reacted when Justin was playing out the role with Casey.

#7; The lie he had me tell the sheriff about Bo.

However, I am not so sure if Dee was involved, and today, after coming on the board, I question myself on what I believe. Did I read more into it because I so desperately wanted to get away from Marty, and I was very scared of him? Scared because I was'nt sure of what he might do to my kids and me. The Meeks' took me and my kids in and therefore, I felt well protected. This is something to think about.

Maybe, they did'nt do it, and I am once again, putting Justin and myself in danger. Confused
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Marylin,
Im so glad you brought this up, I have been batteling with myself that maby, just maby because of how you were treated back then that you might automaticaly suspect Marty of doign this because of how he treated you. Im not saying he did not do this or the evidance dose not point toward him but we have to look form every direction here. Im woundering if you have ever discussed the missing suits with law enfiorcment? did you ever bring this fact to there attention? The only problem i have with the marty and Bo theory is motive. I can understand if a rape was in progress and the boys came in and interfered, or if Marty just snapped because Johenny and Dana said or did somthing to them on the way back from the bar that night but Im still having trouble wit hte fact that these people were tied up....Tied up I meant that alone takes some time then cut and hit with a hammer? what motavates someone to do somthing like this then kidnapp Tina? in the back of my mind Tina has always bee the target because she is the one they took away, what was it about Tina that they could not leave her behind with the rest of the people. did she posess some sort of physical evidance that would leadt law right to the them? The fact the Justin was untouched dose make Marty look all the more gilty though to me. But if he could do this to 4 others you think he could do it to Justin also. Maby we are looking at the wrong people........
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