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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:27 pm    Post subject: media and suspect's names Reply with quote

Hello to all my quiet friends,

I was wondering...were there ever any suspects actually named in any of the newspaper or TV coverage of this case? Were any real names actually used or just descriptions? Were the suspects ever officially said to have been wearing suits that night?

Does anyone here suspect anyone else other than Marty and Bo?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe someone who lives in quincy can go by and possible look in the old newspapers or talk to the local paper?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been looking at the guy Valley mentioned -- Herman Lee Hobbs. His activities have taken place fairly close to Plumas County, his age is about right, and he could resemble one of the sketches. A couple of his crimes appear to include the "rage" element. Hobbs also had a buddy by the name of "dingy Dennis." I have not been able to locate his real name as of yet nor do I know if he was implicated in any of Hobbs' crimes.

In 1970-71, a 15/16 year old girl went missing from in front of what was then Boyd's Market in East Quincy. As far as I know that disappearance has never been solved. I'm still trying to dig up more info on that. I can not remember the girl's name.

Do any other Quincyites remember this?

Also I have heard that Dee Lake was "homeless" and lived under a bridge before he met his wife. Not quite sure what the time frame was here, but my thought is that it was before April 1981, because by that time, Lake was supposedly the Veterans Liason.

I am not convinced that Marty and Bo are the culprits. Mostly because it just does not seem to fit with Tina's disappearance.

So I guess Blueskyes - the answer to your question is that yes, at least one of us has doubts as to the guilt of Marty and Bo.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi all,
I've been thinking the same thing, and always have, that Marty and Bo aren't
the culprits. Certainly things look bad for them according to certain sources
but everyone in town that I have
spoken with mentioned different people/men and had never heard
of M and B when I brought up thier names. Also a cop I spoke with said he'd
never heard of M and B(tho he wasn't here at the time). So I just wonder who all else coulda done it.

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Will get a new one so I can sign in appropriatly.)
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The news articles did not mention names of suspects. There weren't any suspects; just like there isn't now. Are there persons of interest? Yes. That does not justify a mention in the newspaper. Newspaper cannot simply taint someone just because they feel like it.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay then,

Let me rephrase that, Dave. Did the newspapers name any "persons of interest?"

I have heard specific names mentioned on TV in regards to "persons of interest" in various other cases. Couldn't they also do that in the papers and did they at that time in regards to this case?
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:47 pm    Post subject: HUH?? Reply with quote

Salem, I looked in Doenetwork and found nothing around the Quincy area during that time frame. If they don't have it, chances are it was solved?

Craig: How can you be so certain that either my target or Hobbs was unavailable at that time?? This has not been determined yet. And I do guarantee you that my target was not locked up here at that time. Same goes for Hobbs, and he was living in North Highlands during most of the 70's. I can also place my target here in Sacramento by early 1982.

Does anyone have a description of the guy in that mysterious green van??

By the way, Salem can you send me any links you have on Hobbs? I haven't read much about anything other than Rio Linda. Once the hit was announced, back in 2004, at least four agencies looked at him, but nothing yet. Someone may still be trying to make something to him. Thanks.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:43 am    Post subject: Links Reply with quote

Valley - here are the links I found. I sent them in a pm to you and then thought I would post them here in case anyone else is interested. I think the story about Brenda Tucker is pretty interesting.

http://www.news10.net/storyfull1.asp?id=9818

http://www.calweb.com/kxtv10/news-story/September2001/090701/HOBBS-DNA.htm this article talks about a girl who was found along a creek bed. Some what reminscent of the "falls."

http://www.kcra.com/news/3350990/detail.html

http://members.tripod.com/the_daily_ui/id28.htm this link is mostly about Brenda Tucker's family in Oroville. Pretty darn close to those falls, don't ya think?

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 1:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me say it different.

I worked at the newspaper for eight years, from 1994 to 2002. I worked with several of the people who worked at the newspaper at the time of homicides.

The culture at the newspaper, which I do not mean in a negative way, was that it would not have named names. Moreover, it would not have been appropriate. A newspaper cannot simply name names because it feels like it. It forever taints people, whether they did something wrong or not.

This does not mean that newspapers (or radio or TV) don't do it. We've seen situations in which people have blamed by the media for a homicide, only to see those people never get arrested or charged. Look at Richard Jewell. We now know that overseas terrorists planted and set off the bomb, not Richard, whose only real sin was being strange. (Actually, I met the guy and really liked him.) It simply isn't right to name names. I strongly believe that you start naming names only after someone has been arrested or a warrant has been issued for their arrest or they're named an official suspect by law enforcement. Otherwise, you would be ruining someone's reputation without justification.

My recollection of what happened at the newspaper in 1981 was that the sheriff's department did not provide names for publication. As far as I know, the first time law enforcement gave some hints about suspects (to the newspaper) was five years ago, when I was putting together a 20th anniversay article. There were concerns that such information would compromise the investigation, which remains open to this day.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I made a mistake of some kind. I didn't make it clear that, when I said I worked at the newspaper from 1994 to 2002, it meant I no longer work there. I left in February of 2002. I was the news director at KBNF/KPCO from February 2002 to February 2004. I am no longer in the newspaper business and have no intention of returning.

I'm curious about the comment, however, that "no one likes reporters" and about being "nervous talking with reporters."

Maybe some elaboration would be helpful. I find it difficult to believe that "no one" likes reporters. That's kind of a broad, sweeping statement that probably has no factual support. I'm sure therre are plenty of folks who like reporters. Indeed, I made some pretty decent relationships with people I met while I was a reporter.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like reporters.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for your apology. I just wonder about the bad feelings about journalists. I worked in a newsroom of some kind for more than 20 years. And some of the reporters I encountered were not the finest examples of good citizens. I thought maybe you had had a bad experience or something.

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