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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:35 am    Post subject: to Shitamachi Reply with quote

Why do you feel the need to post Craig Walter's ramblings from the BMX forum? I thought we were done with all of that in here?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone asked for one of the post … at a time that I was having computer problems , its now their for their use what ever it may be.

Its pretty sad , that these children got into what they did , but one of few accounts of that night is in a BMX forum.

In the past year … that’s it , it doesn’t really sit well with me.

These where children , weekend night … most likely walking home from some where … did anyone see them walking near their school ? Children wander school yards late at night


How about last things people recall the children saying to you? What where their worries… if any

isn’t this about sparking peoples memories and bringing justice … someday?

These where people … they could have been your children , Family …or your true friends
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2006 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Salem ,I went looking for answers in places most people wouldn’t , just to understand something that I will not.

When I posted the info (on the first website), I got a response that I would never believe … someone acting harshly to a child that survived the night in that place.

How can a child be apart of something like this … its doesn’t seem possible

I reacted by following him into his world, trying to understand his point of view. But that doesn’t seem like its going to happen.



Hi Richards mother you said “we spent 3/4s of our time together” wouldn’t it be fitting that other people of the community would have done the same ?


What if something happened , a teenage brake up and someone blamed someone
or something along those lines … and someone went crying to their buddies

You should see my family , it only has to go threw a handful of people before its all distorted
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 1:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

shut up david
just shut upppp
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well put, Craig, I couldn't have said it better. PP
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 10:49 pm    Post subject: David Reply with quote

I have to disagree with your post in the other thread and here's why:

Whoever showed up at the cabin that night did not get there with a "plan." If they would have had a plan - they would have been "packin" either hardware or the tools they thought they would need to "get what they were looking for."

My understanding is that all of the instruments used came from the cabin itself. -- Ergo, my thought is that some very evil someone picked the boys up hitchhiking and walked into an unplanned "opportunity."

Or - someone, on some pretty wicked drugs -- lost their mind for some unknown reasons -- and again found themselves with an unplanned "opportunity."

Whoever went to the cabin that night - did not begin their evening with the purpose of committing such meyham.

And Craig - I know you are hanging on to the "drug rip-off" theory, but it just doesn't wash. If a drug dealer or his/her flunkies were after what had been taken, they would have had a PLAN and they would have been prepared.

This case so reeks of not having a PLAN. One of the reasons I don't completely discount the Marty & Bo theory is because they, apparently, were known to be unpredictable. And from everything I know about this case, it was unpredictable.

This case does not speak to retaliation, someone knowing something they shouldn't, or even payback.

Having said all that, even I can see holes in my post.....they did get away without "anyone hearing" or leaving "traces outside the cabin."

UGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:48 pm    Post subject: Re: David Reply with quote

Salem wrote:
I have to disagree with your post in the other thread and here's why:

Whoever showed up at the cabin that night did not get there with a "plan." If they would have had a plan - they would have been "packin" either hardware or the tools they thought they would need to "get what they were looking for."

My understanding is that all of the instruments used came from the cabin itself. -- Ergo, my thought is that some very evil someone picked the boys up hitchhiking and walked into an unplanned "opportunity."

Or - someone, on some pretty wicked drugs -- lost their mind for some unknown reasons -- and again found themselves with an unplanned "opportunity."

Whoever went to the cabin that night - did not begin their evening with the purpose of committing such meyham.

And Craig - I know you are hanging on to the "drug rip-off" theory, but it just doesn't wash. If a drug dealer or his/her flunkies were after what had been taken, they would have had a PLAN and they would have been prepared.

This case so reeks of not having a PLAN. One of the reasons I don't completely discount the Marty & Bo theory is because they, apparently, were known to be unpredictable. And from everything I know about this case, it was unpredictable.

This case does not speak to retaliation, someone knowing something they shouldn't, or even payback.

Having said all that, even I can see holes in my post.....they did get away without "anyone hearing" or leaving "traces outside the cabin."

UGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!


Sorry to bump an old thread, but I have to say at this point I find myself agreeing with your post.
I just cannot buy the drug thing, and mostly every violent crime like this people automatically think it had something to do with drugs.

I think the person(s) who picked up John and Dana hitchhiking had something to do with it, and maybe lived within an hour or two from Keddie, and knew the area, but was known to many people there...not a local.
Maybe they had some friendly talk with the boys as they were driving to drop them off and got the notion to do something at that moment...like sexual assault?
Who knows.

I might change my mind about this if I find something that takes me in another direction.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about someone who had recently been told that he wasn't man enough to raise a kid! A mother with a child bearing child with another child. AND Maybe another one that was also with child! Maybe a brother facing rape charges!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heather you must be a dumb blond! Don't you understand that Craig has already admitted to dropping the boys off!
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Marty's Brother wrote:
How about someone who had recently been told that he wasn't man enough to raise a kid! A mother with a child bearing child with another child. AND Maybe another one that was also with child! Maybe a brother facing rape charges!
How about an angry brother obsessed with the fact that one of those boys was man enough to snake his brothers wife?
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever, Marty's brother. I doubt a local had anything to do with it.
It is not unusual for people to want to be connected some how to a story like this, or want to know someone who was connected so they can feel like they have some special information.
However, I'm sure most of these stories and theories are nothing more that small town gossip, tales that grew taller as years passed. As much as some people from that place talk on this board? They way that some people here give up information so freely on this public forum? I doubt the police would have had a hard time getting someone to talk to solve this crime IF it was a local and IF others truly knew things about the crime.

Sorry, no offense to anyone, but I'm not buying this "pregnancy led to murder" story.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 02, 2008 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Heather wrote:

Sorry, no offense to anyone, but I'm not buying this "pregnancy led to murder" story.


As well you shouldn't...
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