Hunches

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Re: Hunches

Postby budrfligh » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:34 pm

A 5 year old can forget trauma without prompting. I believe he was traumatized and repeatedly told he was asleep , he doesn't remember or that is just a bad dream..... he is compromised and probably believes he knows nothing. Those kids tried to talk and hit a wall of silence through fear, guilt and manipulation. What pisses me off is that Justin KNOWS and won't tell, maybe for a price after mommy dearest expires.
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Re: Hunches

Postby justice17 » Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:17 pm



Besides a hostage situation, the following 4 Types of Situations also occur in severely controlling, abusive relationships, creating the Stockholm Syndrome responses:

1. The presence of a perceived threat to one’s physical or psychological survival and the belief that the abuser would carry out the threat

2. The presence of a perceived small kindness from the abuser to the victim

3. Isolation from perspectives other than those of the abuser

4. The perceived inability to escape the situation
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Re: Hunches

Postby dmac » Sun Oct 08, 2017 7:45 am

source: http://receivehealing.com/blog/217/abus ... -syndrome/

In rethinking the whole 'hunch' vs 'deduction' argument, many deductions must start from hunches. Patterns are discovered, IDd via a hunch, and continue to verify themselves through repetition or similar lying patterns. Of course, wit the Loonibi behind the murders, the Tunabi behind the Meeks, and the Goonibi behind the LE cover-up, the lying patterns, while different, are also pretty damned stupid, over-the-top blatant, and (most importantly) OBVIOUS TO A PRE-SCHOOLER.

But recognizing them early is key, and those are probably called hunches. I dunno, maybe NOT

Look at the best example I can think of as a "hunch". I flat out knew, 99%, that were Tony the Greek IDd, he would be a Doppelganger of Avery Schreiber. Right around the time I publicly announced that, a thread about where Tony lived, and who he could maybe be, began on this site. Many people jumped in trying to ID the site of the Hot Springs where Tony lived, where Marty tried to execute Loon and the Boys. A handful of us were posting on top of each other our recent observations/revelation, and at least three there also believed M&M's RA was to protect Tony the G.

Behind the scenes, seeral of us had concluded the EXACT SAME THING: Tony was not only Avery Schreiber, but the killer/assistant for whom Marty's and Loon's and Dee's pals in 13 made up that ridiculous "reverse alibi".

"Reverse Alibi". I know people lie to provide false alibis, but I don't think I'd ever heard of a scenario where someone makes up a lie where the person they're protecting is indicated as an identical twin ten years older and with an expensive new green-on-white just in order to state LE would be mistaking the real perp for this invented perp. Has anyone seen any similar instance?

That's why I openly mocked the lies within the shit coming from 13, coining the term "reverse alibi" as a result of my deducing all they did was lie to protect someone that was involved and a dead-ringer for Avery. But enough of us saw merit to believe it was, indeed, a huge lie conspired, called in to police by Mike, then "verified" by Martel-me-no-lies, to indicate Tony was NOT at cabin 28 because Tony's unknown decades-older identical twin brother was both fucking and fighting Sue in the front yard. Which those in 13 saw through a window where the view of what they claimed was wonderfully IMPOSSIBLE.

So, multiple people believed Mike and Martel were hiding a person's ID, and that person was deduced by a few of us to be Tony The Greek, later IDd by Princess as Tony Garedakis.

Logically, we'd known the IDs of many killers and POIs. We'd already found and published their photos, making the pool of 'possibles' for the RA Avery relatively small. Of those, Tony the Greek was the one bitch these murderous morons mainly mentioned yet could never put a true name to. "Tony the Greek" was already a sore thumb to anyone aware of that bullshit lack of a surname.

So that's really not multiple people with identical hunches, just multiples looking into the idea "RA" is true and, as such, who is the one unknown name and FACE 13's M&M had in common with the known killers?

That's not hard to figure out. By the time I'd come up with the idea that M&M perped an RA, Tony the Greek was already legendary for his being so prominent yet unknown.

Therefore, ignore much of this post. All I've proved is logical deductions are all over the place, and recognition of patterns aren't hunches but early recognition of patterns one then proves with research.

Recognition of patterns also leads to many false accusations AND convictions, because those behind the 'deduction's are fucking frauds. Look at WM3.
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Re: Hunches

Postby justice17 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 10:02 am

D: Your last post is a lot to take in. :?: I Will have to read it a couple of times.

RE: MARTEL-Odd statements that have always bothered me:

"I'm not even involved. I'm just peeking out the window,hoping nobody sees me".
So did she see something,or know something was going down?

"What did she do to make this man so angry? She did something.
WTF?! Nobody deserves to be murdered,Martel!
(Note the word "THIS". (Language expert Red flag).
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Re: Hunches

Postby budrfligh » Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:53 am

His last few lengthy posts need a few re-reads to grasp all the implications!
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Re: Hunches

Postby budrfligh » Sun Oct 08, 2017 11:59 am

First question is what made Garedakis so vital to protect?
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Re: Hunches

Postby justice17 » Sun Oct 08, 2017 2:54 pm

Dmac, do you know what kind of vehicle Tony "The Greek" drove in 81'?

Have you ever heard that Tony was seeing Sue prior to Daryl J? Tony places himself with her on Saturday afternoon.
I Wonder if he was over there helping Sue,J&D with the yard work Sat. Afternon ? With the new investigation underway,Was he worried that someone would mention that he was with Sue? Frank Mike Davis did say it,without really saying it.

I don't get it....WHY volunteer the fake firewood story?

Re: Tony- Read these random messages.
http://www.zabasearch.com/messages/zaba ... +GAREDAKIS
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Re: Hunches

Postby dmac » Mon Oct 09, 2017 3:23 am

So many have offered fake stories of being there. In the 80s and beyond, Loon lied about knocking at 81 so Sue would fuck Bo.

Never happened.

Loon and Tony admit they were there the night of the murders, just to explain away physical evidence they were involved. Their lies are meant to explain away being in 28, period.

I don't think Tony would have made up the firewood lie back in the 80s or 90s. He's an idiot afraid of what he cannot comprehend: DNA fingerprinting.

Tony and Loon know they were in that house that night.

Wake up to what these lies mean: The liar WAS THERE.
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Re: Hunches

Postby budrfligh » Mon Oct 09, 2017 11:10 am

I wonder if Garedakis ever told one of his many scorned woman and if they'd be willing to talk?
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Re: Hunches

Postby dmac » Mon Oct 09, 2017 7:23 pm

I've been in contact with a few of his exes and other associates, and I've put a couple of them in touch with Gam. Thus far, they've been hesitant to talk with him, but they've told me plenty. He's gone by many fake names over the years, including fictional drug lord Tony Montana (interesting choice considering he's been a dealer all his life) and the Sundance Kid's real name, Harry Longabaugh. He's said he witnessed a mob hit when he was in high school and had to quit school and go into witness protection. He's also stated people are after him for murder.

He's apparently taken more acid than the entire population of San Francisco. His other faves are coke and weed. He sells all of them. It's believed Dee used to be one of his main suppliers, and that they hook up at least a couple times a year. His mom is also an enabler, as she mails many of her prescriptions so he can push them, too- something she denied when I spoke with her. She also denied knowing anything about him being a lifelong pusher, and that he's a suspect in the Keddie Murders.

He's been doing all the above for decades, so there's no way for him to ID who I've spoken with, as probably all his exes many of his former friends know the above.
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