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Stay out of keddie?

Postby Trapper » Wed Nov 16, 2016 9:53 am

Wasn't sure where to put this so I'll put it here. Let me know if there a better place for these types of questions...

Last weekend I was on my way to butte meadows and I passed through quincy as usual. While at a gas station (76) in town, I started talking to a guy who knew the area "real well". I asked what was up with that little resort called keddie in hopes he'd pass along some locals only info. He told me I better stay out of there and "some kids got kilt" there. I was told it's all private and if someone see's me poking around, they'd probably call the law or at least run me out of there.

Does anyone have any negative experience with the residents or local LE about looking around keddie or taking pics?
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Re: Stay out of keddie?

Postby dmac » Wed Nov 16, 2016 12:52 pm

There's been talk over the decades of those interested in 28 being chased out of Keddie with shotguns, and I know the owners- and residents- are angry about the unwanted attention these crimes have created. I've also done my best to keep people off the property, as it is privately owned. I've put hundreds of photos of the area online to help explain the layout, as well as satisfy outsiders' curiosity, without them having to poke their noses into Keddie.

When the hammer was found, many were upset- apparently including the owners. Much of the strain was relieved when PCSO explained that the attention to the area was a direct result of the case moving forward finally, and that only by solving the crimes will the BS tourism hope to be alleviated. After all, this isn't a ghost story or some massive mystery. Only to the uninformed or wantonly stupid is this anything but a very stupid mass murder, very poorly covered up by criminal elements withing PCSO and the CA-DOJ. The only mysterious part of the case is the coverup, and visiting Keddie has as much chance of solving any portion of the real mystery as it holds chances of seeing ghosts and elves dancing together around a Maypole.

As an aside, even the person who found the hammer in the pond requested and received permission from the owners/manager of Keddie concerning where and when they could search.
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Re: Stay out of keddie?

Postby budrfligh » Wed Jul 05, 2017 12:40 pm

I used to joke that I could make a fortune by driving to Plainsville and filling viles of dirt. I discovered that wasn't as funny as I thought because suddenly every gore hound in true crime sites wanted a vile of Ed Gein dirt! Plainsville is a quiet, tiny town that to this day will run you out of town for any mention of Gein. It is also a tight knit community and tight lipped. It's very rare you will find an elder generation willing to talk about him and even grandchildren are afraid of the Gein boogeyman. Being an avid student of profiling serials and living a scant 15 minutes away I steered clear of any effort to get intel. Being as Gein is not a real serial killer perhaps I gave up the bone easier but I just knew better. I'd have a better chance getting into Mendotta to interview Gein himself than one word of a resident. I think it's about time Keddie got rid of this festering splinter and get their town back. Nothing good is going to happen there, for any owner until this is resolved.
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Re: Stay out of keddie?

Postby iraqpack » Wed Jul 05, 2017 10:14 pm

I'm from Greenville, which is right near Keddie. First, there's nothing to see in Keddie. It's a pile of crap. Second, if you were to drive down there and stay on the asphalt, I seriously doubt you'd encounter anyone. You might have people staring at you out of their window, but everyone does that in Plumas county. I'm pretty sure that the majority of people who live there are meth heads these days. I've been there quite a few times. It was a little eerie one night when my car broke down and I went down near the old lodge building to use the pay phone. This was in like 2000, so I didn't have a cell phone yet lol
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Re: Stay out of keddie?

Postby dfc9781 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:57 am

iraqpack wrote:I'm from Greenville, which is right near Keddie. First, there's nothing to see in Keddie. It's a pile of crap. Second, if you were to drive down there and stay on the asphalt, I seriously doubt you'd encounter anyone. You might have people staring at you out of their window, but everyone does that in Plumas county. I'm pretty sure that the majority of people who live there are meth heads these days. I've been there quite a few times. It was a little eerie one night when my car broke down and I went down near the old lodge building to use the pay phone. This was in like 2000, so I didn't have a cell phone yet lol


Its closeby Mount Shasta though, isn't it? A beautiful area that I've always wanted to see.. but I probably couldn't resist driving through Keddie if it were near.
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Re: Stay out of keddie?

Postby cinnimon97 » Mon Sep 04, 2017 5:30 pm

I would love to see it because that's my nature but I also understand the reason people that live there would be upset --- plus cabin 28 is gone now
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Re: Stay out of keddie?

Postby budrfligh » Wed Sep 06, 2017 1:46 pm

Personally I find it absolutely beautiful as far as places go. If I didn't know about the murders it would be a hidden gem. It be hard to go there just to vacation now. I would give myself away.
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Re: Stay out of keddie?

Postby Magnum PI » Sat Dec 09, 2017 2:00 am

I've been to Keddie many times! Once with Dmac and several times by myself. One day I drove in and struck up a conversation with Railroad Vicki! Told her how my parents use to come up to the lodge. Asked her if there were any cabins for rent and what happened to the place. Of course she didn't bring up the murders! I got some BS story ( knowing the truth all along) On another visit I walked straight into Cabin 26 and took photos of every inch of the place, including the basement. I've never had an issue. But I'm also packin every time.
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Re: Stay out of keddie?

Postby dmac » Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:20 am

Yep, Mags wore a sidearm in 2011. Scared the fuck out of me, as I don't trust people around guns unless I already know them, and know how they handle guns. I grew up around a lot of guns, including a Daisy Powerline 880, and I don't like them. I grew up in the wild, and most people think they know how to handle a gun, like wannabe 'cowboys' think they know how to handle a horse. Rarely can they do either.

Mags, my point is things have changed quite a bit since 11. They tried to rebuild, put up a resort page on FB, tried to rent the remodeled buildings. The effort imploded, the page was yanked within weeks. The murders hopefully played a part in that failure, as I believe the methods and motives were purely assholy. It was a shit gameplan on their part (the Frisco socialites came in, bought 50% from Mollath, then gave socialistic hopes while imposing purely capitalistic threats, demands, and rewards.)

Since then, the case has gone from about a 2 in 2011 to about a 5 when the People stuff dropped last November. Now it's about a six on the Sichter scale (similar to the Richter scale, but it measures how sick and evil the interest, kinda like the depth of the river of evil in Ghostbusters. The Sichter scale, like the Richter scale, is a base-10 logarithmic scale, meaning that each level of magnitude is 10 times more intense than the prior. In other words, a two is 10 times worse than a one, and a three is 100 times worse.)

Proof? The few seconds of vid from Keddie in 2011 I filmed and posted were the sole new bits of vid on Youtube for YEARS. This year alone, I know of four YT vids filmed in Keddie. I hope people watch them and satiate their need, as IDIOTS GOING THERE is of no benefit to anyone... other than proving assholes are assholes because they want to be assholes.

The interest in the case has exploded, so the amount of assholes flooding Keddie are obviously not the RRers that residents hoped were the interlopers. The increased exposure of the case have propelled Keddie into a tourist destination for morons and sickos, and I do believe it's a dangerous and stupid move to go there expecting to fuck around, creepy-crawl as Manson called it. A load of fuckwads go there expecting no consequences, and there should be some.

99% going there have no damned clue about the case. IDIOTS making asses of themselves, destroying what little peace current residents deserve. You've been there a handful of times, Mags. You know the area, you know the backstory. You wear a sidearm in plain sight, which actually probably reassures the locals that you're a local, too. But remind me if I'm wrong, when we went into Keddie in 2011, you had no idea what I was talking about. I'd never been there before, but I'd researched enough and built maps from nothing so, in my head, I aleady knew what was where in 1981 Keddie. We parked up by the wye and looked over the edge, and I pointed out where the footbridge was (hidden by trees), where the cabins on the NW side of the bridge were, where missing cabins used to be. You knew the case but still had no idea about how built up it was in 81, how close the buildings were. It's so sparse now, but in 81? Wholly Holy Shit!

So, Mags, when I'm telling people to stay the fuck away from Keddie, it's because they should. Nothing good will come from more and more maggots with their heads up their asses and cameras as eyes pouring into Keddie. It's a huge disservice to the memories of the victims, and a real and growing concern to residents who deserve the peace for which they pay rent.
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Re: Stay out of keddie?

Postby budrfligh » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:05 am

I watched a walk thru vid a few days back. Other than being remarkably clear keddie is on its death throws I saw no reason to watch it much less make it. It's not like suddenly I'll have the magic aura or catch phrase to get anyone talking. There really is nothing to offer this investigation. Plus the kooks gravitating there like it is a cult classic B movie are kinda creepy too.
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Re: Stay out of keddie?

Postby dmac » Sat Dec 09, 2017 10:46 am

budr, this case is just a few missed words from snagging the living killers into court. Don't EVER think I'm not after living killers and conspirators. All the while scaling the Big Mountain: K4
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Re: Stay out of keddie?

Postby budrfligh » Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:46 pm

I know you are after them all. I am cheering you on!! I would love to see accountability. Mariposa.......
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