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Postby jhancock » Sat Dec 15, 2012 6:39 pm

Thanks to Mr. Gatie who answered these questions for us. Before his responses, Mr. Gatie added, "It's easy to Monday morning quarterback the mistakes or errors made. I have to believe that all involved were doing their best at the time to solve this crime. Not a lot of information sharing took place at the time. Investigators and Sheriff Thomas seemed to play their cards close to their chest and it was detrimental to the case. Very basic mistakes like not securing the scene instantly and not calling in the forensic pros (DOJ) right away could have caused some harm to the evidence collection process."

1. In what capacity were you employed at the time of the Keddie Murders? Do you recall when you first were notified about them?

I was serving the Westwood area as a resident Deputy sheriff with the Lassen County Sheriff’s Dept at the time of the murders. Knew of the murders in short order can’t recall how I first learned of them. Most likely through an informational teletype sent by PCSO or discussions with the Deputies out of the Chester office.

2. What was the mood like in places like Keddie, Quincy, Chester, and Westwood after word of the murders got out? Were people talking about them? Did people feel like the murderers were still in their midst, or that they had moved on?

Deep concern by those area residents. People were talking about the murders (very small close knit communities); most expressed at the time a hope that the suspects were caught and brought to justice. This is still the case. Some expressed a healthy fear or concern about the murders.

People and law enforcement (me and my partners) didn’t know where the suspects were – that they could very much be amongst us. Heard everything from people thought the suspects were transients or bums off the railcars that passed through, druggies, domestic relationship that went awry ,etc.

Everything imaginable was said. What didn’t take place was there didn’t seem to be a lot of information that was shared with neighboring law enforcement about the investigation…. It may have been that (PCSO) had no need to share or seek area law enforcement assistance.

3. How did you first hear from Wally Ringer? Why did he contact you? What did Mr. Ringer have to say about the Keddie Murders?

Wally was an area resident (Westwood) and I happened to be on duty (early evening) at the Sheriff’s sub Station office when he walked in to report the Hank Thompson confession to him. ( Didn’t know the suspect name until I viewed the DVD)

I do recall Wally sharing information about some person or connection with a party out of Livermore, Ca. The DVD reminded me of this bit of info. Can’t be more specific, just that I recall Wally telling me that there was another party that left or fled to Livermore following the murders.

Rather than get a detailed statement from Mr. Ringer at the time, I called PCSO to report his information to them generally and told Mr Ringer that the PCSO investigators would be contacting him for a detailed statement. I recall that Mr Ringer reported to me that he was working with the susp.
on the railroad at the time. Wally shared with me that the susp, he and others were sleeping in a railroad sleeper car in the Little valley area when Wally shared that susp – Thompson woke him up reporting that he (Thompson) was having nightmares about the murders in Keddie. Wally stated to me that it was as if Thompson shared his involvement with Wally in an effort to ease his conscious about the crimes at the time.

4. After you reported Mr. Ringer's story to the PCSO, did you ever hear anything about a follow-up? Did you ever hear from Mr. Ringer again?

I do recall hearing from Wally and was told that he gave his detailed statement to the PCSO. I don’t recall ever hearing anything from PCSO about the Keddie murder investigation. The deputies from Chester and our office would meet from time to time to discuss issues in the area. The Chester guys
felt they were in the dark about the case at the time as well.

5. Why do you think the murders were never solved? Could they be solved today? If so, what might it take to make that happen (or to help make that happen?)

Don’t know! Wasn’t involved in the investigation closely enough to know why it wasn’t solved. Insufficient evidence would be the reason. The case could be solved today. New investigative techniques etc are available that were not readily used at the time ie DNA analysis etc. Cold case detc’s are solving cases all over this country; I don’t know why this case would be any different. The case is thirty years old and many witnesses etc may be deceased etc. This would be problematic. I think a fresh set of eyes teamed with some of the old investigators could rework the case and quite possibly solve it. Hagwood would have to dedicate a point person and commit some resources to thoroughly rework the case. They ( PCSO) could be doing so?? Your DVD piece indicated that the PCSO has fresh eyes looking at the case periodically. This is a good start. Small rural law enforcement agency investigators typically wear a lot of hats and don’t often have the time that this case would require. I think Hagwood could assemble some retired guys from his agency that are objective and passionate about solving the case and see that it gets the full time attention that it would require to rework the case in its entirety. Then and only then - will this case have a reasonable chance at getting solved.
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Re: brief new interview with Curt Gatie

Postby TREELAND » Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:57 pm

This might seem petty but is there a chance Sheriff Hagwood doesn't want to spend funds or manpower on a Keddie murders re-investigation? Or figures just forget it as a re-opening of the case might open an hornets nest of past corruption of the Plumas County Sheriffs Office. It has been stated that he knew Dana and John. He was a youth when it happen, it seems he would want to solve this and be more vocal on this subject.
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Re: brief new interview with Curt Gatie

Postby Chichibcc » Wed Jan 09, 2013 8:14 pm

Yes, I would think so as well, but this is Plumas County we're talking about here, after all....

But yes, I'm sure cost does factor partly into the decision, since PCSO is a smaller police department in a rural area, meaning a small staff and fewer people available to give the case the attention it deserves.

Greg Hagwood is the SEVENTH sheriff of Plumas County since the murders....so that in itself should be an indicator in just how little progress has been made.
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Re: brief new interview with Curt Gatie

Postby BUTTERFLYVALLEY1 » Fri Feb 08, 2013 11:24 pm

Why was the VIDOCQ SOCIETY never invited in to solve this? They are unique and positively amazing in their ability to solve crimes which have not been solved by local law enforcement where the crime was committed. It is very sad that they have not had an opportunity. The only reason I can see for not asking for their help is because they do not want it solved. How selfish and unkind to never allow closure in this murder.
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Re: brief new interview with Curt Gatie

Postby dmac » Sat Feb 09, 2013 3:51 am

Sheila had the cooperation of Vidocq, but PCSO ignored it. It's another pathetic turn by the truly pathetic PCSO.

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Re: brief new interview with Curt Gatie

Postby IPO » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:05 pm

Sheila had the cooperation of Vidocq, but PCSO ignored it. It's another pathetic turn by the truly pathetic PCSO.

Also note Sheila calls herself Sheila Sharp-Meeks in her Vidocq correspondence, based on her marriage to Richard, the same guy she lied to us about. She told us she was never married to him, after telling us she was married to him. The same Richard Meeks she says she was victimized by as a child in her bullshit 'book', har-dee-har.



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Actually, Sheila and Richard are now going by the surname Whittle.
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Re: brief new interview with Curt Gatie

Postby ache » Sun Mar 03, 2013 4:47 pm

IPO, that's the NEW Richard, not Richard Meeks that she married way back in mid 2008. Trading in old Richards for new ones is a sign of deep spiritual enlightenment and inner peace.
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Re: brief new interview with Curt Gatie

Postby TREELAND » Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:36 am

Ache your signature quote.....oh forget it. Nevermine.
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Re: brief new interview with Curt Gatie

Postby TREELAND » Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:44 am

Ache just wanted to know is your signature guote from a book or a movie? Should have finished asking this question before. You don'nt have to answer but it seems like I've seen it or heard it before. Hope your day is going well.
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Re: brief new interview with Curt Gatie

Postby ache » Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:31 pm

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Re: brief new interview with Curt Gatie

Postby Chichibcc » Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:43 am

dmac wrote:Also note Sheila calls herself Sheila Sharp-Meeks in her Vidocq correspondence, based on her marriage to Richard, the same guy she lied to us about. She told us she was never married to him, after telling us she was married to him.


Does anyone know why they ended up divorcing, or did Sheila never give any explanation? I have my own ideas, but was just wondering.
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Re: brief new interview with Curt Gatie

Postby frida » Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:04 pm

Chi-I was in chat one night when Sheila mentioned they were divorcing. She did not give any details other than it was amicable and she and Richard Meeks would remain friends. I don't think she has delved into the cause(s) of the split in any great detail on the forum or in chat.
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