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Re: NEW RULE Marilyn Smartt Musgrove is in the House

Postby Marilyn Musgrove » Sun Apr 10, 2016 2:31 pm

Marilyn Musgrove wrote:That looks like Wade Meek's car. The boys shared the bedroom by the bathroom Marde and I had the room off the kitchen. Is the playhouse behind the big shed past cabin 26? The cops went with me to playhouse and asked me about the boards on the floor. It was a very small building behind the big garage type building up on the hill. Remember the Meek's,the Sharp's and the Lakes' all new each other long before I knew them. I met Nina at the college. I met Wade at the Lake's, I met the Lake's through Marde. I wasn't close with any of them before the murder's.


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Re: NEW RULE Marilyn Smartt Musgrove is in the House

Postby dntblvu » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:55 pm

I'm going to post and hope it's in the right place and not screw up again. I have a question for Marilyn, if I may. Are you scared now, of anybody from the past? And do you know about sue asking neighbors for kids to spend the night or why she would do that? Did she ask for casey? Thank you.
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Re: NEW RULE Marilyn Smartt Musgrove is in the House

Postby Marilyn Musgrove » Sun Apr 10, 2016 5:58 pm

No, I'm not afraid of anyone now.. If the good Lord wants me to come home, so be it.. I think that's a bunch of hog wash, Sue asking for kids to spend the night. She didn't ask me for either of my boys to spend the night, the boys (Justin and Ricky) asked if it was ok... Personally, I can't see her doing that...

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Re: NEW RULE Marilyn Smartt Musgrove is in the House

Postby Shellsbells » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:01 pm

The cops went with me to playhouse and asked me about the boards on the floor.


Do you remember what was asked of you about the boards on the floor?

In the docs, or in a post, I cant remember which, you said something about the boards in the floor in the playroom were pulled up. But then it was found that there is no way the floor boards could be pulled up. Do you remember any of that, and what you remember about the floor boards that day?

Thank you again for answering all our questions.
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Re: NEW RULE Marilyn Smartt Musgrove is in the House

Postby Marilyn Musgrove » Sun Apr 10, 2016 7:12 pm

We walked past cabin 26,down a little dirt overgrown road, to the right up on the hill was a very small shed that the kids used as a club house. They asked me if there was anything different I said I didn't remember the boards being pried up. The little shed is a ways behind the big garage that sits on the main road going up to the railroad tracks. I hope I answered your question...

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Re: NEW RULE Marilyn Smartt Musgrove is in the House

Postby dmac » Sun Apr 10, 2016 11:41 pm

Yes, you remember where the Playhouse is. Here's the link to recent photos I took of the Playhouse.

Here's what you told Doug and DOJ Mike Crim on April 21, 1981:

    "Marilyn was asked if Bo had ever met Sue Sharp. She said Bo met Sue on Wednesday (4-8-81) night, and as far as she knew Bo had never seen her again.She said she met Sue shortly after Sue moved to Keddie (November 1980). She said she and Sue were friends, occasionally had coffee together, and their kids were friends."
So were you friends with Sue and often shared coffee (as you've said other times), or did you barely know her?

As for the basement, the Playhouse, etc., here's what you said on Jesse's old forum back in 2006. Keep in mind, you also said there were needles, the hammer, porno mags, all kinds of stuff you'd never seen before down there. You also told Tina's pervo pedophile teacher, Joel Lipsey, and others that "Tina's" bloody jacket was in the basement:

Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:06 am Post subject: catching up
    "I do recall a small red jacket in the basement and was asked if it was Tina's. I didn’t know for sure. It could have belonged to any of kids out there.

    I do remember when we got there the police showed up and asked to if they could check my cabin.
    I also showed them the playhouse. It was covered with 'fuck you Marty' and such thing as that. It was painted with black spray paint. It was then that I noticed the floor boards pulled up in the playhouse. I told the police about it. They asked me if it had been like that before, I said "no"."

Take a look again at the shots of the Playhouse I took. You've said many times the floorboards were freshly pulled up, and that you think they put Tina there. The problem is, I've been in the Playhouse and it's physically impossible to pull up the floorboards, as the walls are built on top of them. And I see nothing but the old black paint on the door, saying "Lights Out". The walls inside are still bare wood. Where's all the "Fuck You Marty"s in black paint?

Posted Sat Jul 08, 2006 1:53 pm Post subject: what I know
    "I also showed them [LE]the kid's club house. The floor board were pried up and had not been like that before."

Now that your memory's a bit refreshed, you want to take another stab at the answers you've given? And how could you see cops all over the place at 28 from any window in 26? I've been in 26 and took a lot of photos. You cant see anything of 27 (Seabolts) or 28 from anywhere inside 26, including the back yard. Cabin 25, the Albins'/Hogaboams' place, is huge and completely blocks the view. You'd have to get dressed and take a few steps out the front door of 26 to even see the front fence of 28.

You're also mistaken about where Justin and Casey slept. Marty explained the boys slept in the long, thin room off the kitchen, when he confessed to the murders to Crim and Bradley by saying:

    "Smartt: Justin is a very light sleeper. I, often times he‘s gotten up when I was, like I said, I stoke the fire at about 3:30... And uh, often times he's been awakened by me stoking the fire and got up and went to the bathroom during that period of time. And I know that he does sleep light. And he does have trouble going to sleep sometimes.

    Seems to me that under an excitable period such as what they are under, that, you know, 10, laying in bed with your buddy giggling and this and that. There is a very high possibility that he could have been awake or alerted to something unusual in that house. And he is quiet enough to where he could have noticed something without me detecting him."

See what Marty did? He admitted to LE that Justin saw him in cabin 28, murdering people.

Marilyn, I hope you noticed that we're having a big Group Chat tonight. It starts at 6 pm Pacific, but you can show up an hour or two later on the west coast and it should still be going strong. We hope you can attend. Here's the link:

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Re: NEW RULE Marilyn Smartt Musgrove is in the House

Postby Marilyn Musgrove » Mon Apr 11, 2016 1:35 pm

I said Justin came to the front door of 26 and told me Doug Thomas wanted to talk to me, he said there are cops all over the place and everybody is dead. I told him that is not a very good joke to play on me, he said ,look outside. I must have walked outside with him because I saw all the activity going on ( I realize I can't see cabin 28 or Seabolts from 26 front door). I then went with him to D Thomas's car. We all sat in Dt's car and talked. At that point they didn't know for sure if it was Sue or Tina in the cabin.

Marde was wrong! The boys had the bedroom off the living room, Marde an I had the bedroom off the kitchen. I know because the phone was on the wall of the kitchen going into the living room across from the entry into our room. I stood at that entry when Marde was yelling at someone on the phone after our return from the lounge. I assumed it was Jan Albin...

The porno mags were found behind the dresser in our bedroom by the cops when they searched cabin 26 ? days later..It was the first time I ever saw them. The words fuck you Marty was on the side of the play house facing the little road going passed 26. When I saw it, I realized then just how much someone or someone's must have hated Marde Smartt.. I saw that the same day the cops searched the cabin 26..

I appologise about the floor boards in the playhouse.. Maybe there were just boards laying there with all the other junk. Maybe I just assumed to much at that particular time, I just don't know anymore..

Wow!! Was that statement from Marde's interview with LE about Justin being a light sleeper and going undetected during the crime?

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Re: NEW RULE Marilyn Smartt Musgrove is in the House

Postby Marilyn Musgrove » Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:21 pm

Thank you pink panther...
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Re: NEW RULE Marilyn Smartt Musgrove is in the House

Postby dmac » Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:25 pm

PP, I deleted your post. This is not about interrogation or confrontation, but my rather gently reminding Marilyn of her own prior accounts. She's made it clear she has 'memory issues'.
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Re: NEW RULE Marilyn Smartt Musgrove is in the House

Postby dmac » Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:26 pm

I didn't know you were posting a response to PP when I was deleting her post, and am surprised you'd agree with her. Sorry if seeing what you've said in the past is considered a bad thing, Marilyn. If your replies don't add up to what you and others have said, are we supposed to just move on and ignore the differences? Thats what PCSO and LE did for the first 30 years, which is one of the reasons the case was never solved. You, Marilyn, of all people should be empathetic to that fact.
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Re: NEW RULE Marilyn Smartt Musgrove is in the House

Postby Marilyn Musgrove » Mon Apr 11, 2016 3:56 pm

I was just thanking pp in regards to the info Marde gave regarding the bed rooms.. I know you have questions and I don't feel you have been out of line in asking.. I still don't understand the play house questions, I have answered as best I can, maybe I'm misunderstanding you...

I will try to follow the chat tonight at 6:00 pm

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Re: NEW RULE Marilyn Smartt Musgrove is in the House

Postby dmac » Mon Apr 11, 2016 4:03 pm

gotcha-

Keep in mind, tonight is the news piece on KOLO in Reno (a lead story). The scheduled chat is tomorrow, the 12th.

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Re: NEW RULE Marilyn Smartt Musgrove is in the House

Postby justice17 » Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:07 pm

Hello Marilyn

Easy one for you....did Marde or Bo smoke cigarettes?

Do you remember the brand?

Thank you in advance for returning here and answering questions.
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Re: NEW RULE Marilyn Smartt Musgrove is in the House

Postby Cowgirlsunni » Mon Apr 11, 2016 5:59 pm

Hi Marilyn. Thank you so much for being here and open to questions.
Along with Justice17's question - Did Bo or Marty smoke cigarettes and if so, what brand? I would like to additionally ask -

Did you smoke cigarettes and if so, what brand?

Thank you.
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Re: NEW RULE Marilyn Smartt Musgrove is in the House

Postby Marilyn Musgrove » Mon Apr 11, 2016 6:10 pm

Yes, I also smoked (still do, darn't),but I don't remember the brand. Thanks D Mac for your post. At least I know we are on the same page, trying to put this case to bed,and get justice for all involved...

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Re: NEW RULE Marilyn Smartt Musgrove is in the House

Postby dmac » Tue Apr 12, 2016 6:27 am

I thought you gave them up, about five years ago. Do you still openly smoke, or just sneak the bastards when you think nobody cares? Damn, Marilyn, you know you can't do that. Seriously.
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Re: NEW RULE Marilyn Smartt Musgrove is in the House

Postby Marilyn Musgrove » Tue Apr 12, 2016 12:20 pm

Call me dumb, I started up again.. I keep trying to quit and maybe I will make it someday... Until then Puff Puff that cigarette!!! lol

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Re: NEW RULE Marilyn Smartt Musgrove is in the House

Postby lynabus » Tue Apr 12, 2016 4:57 pm

I just have to post this here...regarding the smoking...I started again due to this case, it's just stressful thinking about all those innocent humans died so young. Just mind-boggling. I can't wait for this to finally be solved and the guilty parties brought to justice.

My first cigarette smoked was in 1981, stole 3 packs of Salem Light 100's from my Mom's carton at the age of 10. I stopped and didn't smoke again until age 15 and at that time it was Marlboro red's then at 18 I started smoking Liggett's and changed to Newport green 100's, than I switched to Camels and than Marlboro Lights...today @45 years of age I started back up with Newport red 100's. My memory fails me some days and I am on medication for Bipolar disorder, anxiety and fibromyalgia. I'll make a vow to quit smoking as soon as this is finally solved.
I liked the recent article with Mike quoting, that we have most of the individuals identified, and we're coming for them.
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Re: NEW RULE Marilyn Smartt Musgrove is in the House

Postby dmac » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:00 pm

Lyn, I'll ban youo for smoking if you don't stop on your own IMMEDIATELY.

Don't blame the bar for wanting to smoke. It was your own bad choice to revisit a deadly, worthless habit.
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Re: NEW RULE Marilyn Smartt Musgrove is in the House

Postby lynabus » Tue Apr 12, 2016 5:35 pm

dmac,
I read you, it's totally my own fault for starting up again. I was doing so good too. Don't worry, I bought my gum tonight and chewing it, instead of grabbing for a smoke, I grab a stick of gum instead. Thanks for the scolding, I need it most times.
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