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"Sheila Says", and the Psychobabble Fraudcast

Postby dmac » Sat Jun 20, 2015 10:29 pm

A couple years back, Josh did a 'podcast' with aliens from Planet Skrubol, where psychics channel the toilets of their minds to flush out visions and other BS. I was recently approached by two women- one being the hack fraud who did some 'channeling' of Sue for Sheila in Keddie, as seen in Pt. 2. I told her she is what she is (a hack fraud), and to piss off. The other was the hack fraud host of the podcast. She wanted me to participate in a new podcast to, among other things, explain Josh's lies and downfall. I told her, well, an extended version of what I told the other hack fraud.

That podcast went live without me a few weeks ago. In my place? Sheila Sharp. Among the things she told them, while waiting for her Barry Manilow concert to start, was that she's retired from the case and has moved on with her life, that she no longer wants to participate in discussions of the Keddie case. Yes, she said that while participating in a podcast with a psychic she derided as a fraud. How is that 'retiring'?

Here's an overview of the craptastic fraudcast:

Note that Shaver writes, EXACTLY:

4-12-81 APPROX. 845 DAVIS, DONALD LEE CONTACTED ME AT THE SCENE, IN FRONT OF CABIN #28.

Shaver does NOT say that's when Davis arrived in Keddie; Shaver says that's when Don initiated contact with him. Shaver never mentioned seeing Don arrive. Shaver only accounts for when Don got his attention in front of 28 and they had that discussion.

Who got to 28 first? PCSO and Don Davis were called back to back. Don lived in EQ. PCSO were spread around at 745 am Saturday, the first to arrive being Klement, who was at PCSO HQ when the call came in. Are we to believe Don Davis arrived around 8:45 am, or that Don got to 28 prior to LE and actually went into the cabin before LE arrived (as Sheila now remembers)?

The podcast lasts an interminable two hours, and is far worse than the drivel served up by thinkingsideways a couple months back. Instead of you repeating the suffering I went through by having to watch the vid, here's what Sheila said:

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► Neighbors remember Sheila identifying Johnny as one of the dead upon returning from finding the bodies. She doesn't remember saying that, but others do. She also said Don Davis arrived in Keddie and entered the cabin before LE arrived (see the end of this post!)
► She doesn't remember Marty at all, because she was "gone part of the time my family lived in Keddie". She said Sue hung out with Marilyn, though.
► Sheila believes Bo and Marty did it, and LE knew it but got them out of town, and then intentionally botched the case. She believes LE are still doing nothing to solve it. She also believes the boys were left alive because of Justin's relationship to the killers (Marty & Loon).
► She believes Justin is protecting his mom (Marilyn), who she thinks was just outside cabin 28 during the crimes or at least knew about what was happening.
► She believes Dee Lake was involved.
► She said Deborah is claiming everyone is slandering Bo, and that she (Sheila) won't participate in Keddie28.com because we've called her "every name you can think of".
► To her knowledge, Tina hadn't started her cycle yet, so couldn't have been pregnant.
► "I don't know exactly what happened with Josh, I haven't gotten into that." She believes Josh did everything he could to help the case and retired as he could do no more good, in part because "everyone was threatening to sue him" over "lies about Bo".
► She said Sue chose to move to Quincy/Keddie to help Johnny, who was difficult, and to be close to Don.
► She said Sue may have had a couple jobs, as others have claimed, but she doesn't recall. The job hours may have been when Sheila was at school. She heard Sue volunteered at the old folks home, where her grandfather lived. She thinks Sue worked for a while at the health club. But Sue was going to school, too.
► Sheila thinks about the crime often, but doesn't participate anymore. She thinks it can be solved, and people "on the good side" (ie not keddie28.com) are still working the case, but she doesn't think it will be solved. She has moved on with her life.

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AFTER Sheila's segment was over, the hosts dialed in a spiritualist (using only lame technology from this world, known to mere humans as Skype) to do a "remote viewing", which is psychobabble for channeling spirits to see into the past, to watch what happened during the murders "as they happened". In fact, the host admitted she'd called this third 'psychic' woman days or weeks prior to the podcast, and the "real" 'remote viewing' was done then, during a phone conversation. Of course, right when this new psychic agreed to do a 'remote viewing' of the Keddie case, which she claims she'd "never heard of before", she also claims all the power went out at her house. OO-EE-OO. She had only the phone line and the spirit world, no access to the internet. No googling for clews on a case she'd NEVER HEARD OF BEFORE.

How funny it is that, since their original podcast with Josh, all their new revelations in the new podcast deal with what we at keddie28.com have been digging up for a long damned time: mafia, drugs, coverup by all types of LE. Of course, she "didn't know any of that" because her power was out. OO-EE-OO. As with the times they couldn't get Skype to work properly, or the podcast feed briefly faltered, they immediately deemed all human and technological breakdowns were "paranormal activity", not due to their ineptitude or bandwidth issues. OO-EE-OO! So SPOOKY!

Here, then, is a summary of this psychic sidekick's very disjointed, illogical retelling of What the Fraud Saw In the Dark & Stormy (and electricity-free) Night:

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►Two men, both now dead, did the killings. A third man in a red and black plaid jacket was standing just inside the front door, forced to watch but not a participant. Another man stood guard outside the door. A large car, like a Lincoln, circled the area looking out for Johnny and Dana. She asked Sheila if Loon wore a red & black plaid shirt. (Yes, Sheila listened in for another 15 minutes or so until her phone disconnected).
►One of the dead men was Chicago mafia, more of the boss of the two killers. The other killer was crazier, and very nervous about being caught. This was a mafia hit because Sue had been in a relationship with a mafia guy who promised her & the kids a lot but never delivered, and when she was overheard saying she was going to squeal on the guy, the mafia came to town, hired some local guys who are even more cruel than the two dead guys to help wipe her out. Sue told the 'psychic' that (husband) James molested all the kids, boys and girls, not just Sheila.
►The two now-dead men and the mafia guys hung out at the nearby bar a lot. They also hung out at bars in Chicago, Reno, and New Jersey.
►Another younger guy from the area who hung at the bar with the killers/mafia was also there for the murders and had made strong advances towards Tina and wanted her for his own.
►The two now-dead men held Sue down and attacked her, and also cut her "where you would carry a baby" (her uterus). Then the man guarding the door outside, the mafia guy who'd been in the relationship with Sue, came in and covered her with a blanket. The scene was staged with rope to make it look different, but the staging actually ended up making it look even more like a mafia hit.
►The younger guy with the obsession for Tina was told to take Tina and do what he wanted, so he took her (in the Lincoln) 50 miles away and he and mafia guys "did not so nice things". He's very obsessed with the case now because he doesn't want anyone else taking credit. The guy also used a hatchet on her. The only reason Tina was taken was because he was a sick sexual sadist and killer, and that's why only her skull was found, because he used the hatchet to chop her up.
►The Lincoln was a popular mob car, and people were talking about it after the crimes. It was made to disappear FAST. The crime was covered up by low-level and high-level LE. The Lincoln was 'fast-tracked' out of town, taken to an industrial spot in Chicago with smokestacks nearby, compacted into a cube, stuck in a hole, and concrete poured over. The car had to disappear because it had so much blood and other evidence in it. LE destroyed tons of other evidence, including the cabin itself, to protect the coverup.
►Everybody who promised to write books or other things have been scared into silence. People that wanted to talk have mysteriously disappeared.
►The killers lay in wait 'like a pack of wolves' to murder everyone, and the murders were intended "to send a message: Don't mess with the wrong people". The boys were left alive as witnesses to why the killings happened, so that others could learn.
As soon as someone came in the door, the killers got the duct tape and restrained them. They put a white towel in Sue's mouth and duct taped over it to muffle her. When she was dead, they removed the towel and placed it on her or nearby. ►"Nobody heard anything. Why? The mafia is very good at doing what they do."
►The mafia was always involved in Keddie, and would fly associates in from Vegas to party there. Marty was a real sonofabitch but was in no way involved with the murders. People involved: John, Mark, William (or Bill) and Randy.
►The younger guy who took Tina and is obsessed with the case and dismembered her body. He is also still an avid fisherman, she sees a row of fishing reels when she thinks of him. He disposed of key evidence in a body of water. "He's probably watching this broadcast right now." He hates LE and the government and is they type to be more dangerous in his old age. Tina was not his last.
►Sue says she's sorry she could not stop her husband from molesting all her children and other kids, too. Sue feels responsible for the murders. She's sorry she couldn't protect the victims. The 'psychic' believes Mr Sharp is still alive, his "energy is still around".
►The case is unsolved but considered closed.

WHAT A PANTLOAD OF BULL PSCHIT.

Note that Shaver writes, EXACTLY:

4-12-81 APPROX. 845 DAVIS, DONALD LEE CONTACTED ME AT THE SCENE, IN FRONT OF CABIN #28.

Shaver does NOT say that's when Davis arrived in Keddie; Shaver says that's when Don initiated contact with him!

Who got to 28 first? PCSO and Don Davis were called back to back. Read more here.
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Re: "Sheila Says", and the Psychobabble Fraudcast

Postby miniondi » Thu Apr 14, 2016 1:07 pm

I'm not sure if this is TMI but just because Sheila says Tina had not started her cycle yet does NOT, in any way, mean she COULD NOT have been pregnant. As the mother of a 12-yr old I can tell you it starts out crazy and random. A child may not realize it has started and mine didn't tell me for months, I had to find out other ways. Secondly, there have been many cases where a child who is being abused is pregnant before ever knowingly starting.
I know this isn't terribly relevant but I don't know why Sheila would completely dismiss for this reason.
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Re: "Sheila Says", and the Psychobabble Fraudcast

Postby LynnieLasVegas » Tue Jan 24, 2017 10:05 am

The above nonsense "seen, felt, heard" by the criminally fraudulent psychic is such a bunch of crap. This shit pisses me off so much. Scam artist making money off off of other people's pain. They should all be put in jail. How can they live with themselves? Just makes my blood boil, like those assholes that claim to heal cancer with bleach....
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Re: "Sheila Says", and the Psychobabble Fraudcast

Postby Socal67 » Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:59 am

Lynnielasvegas: I agree.. I have cancer and a guy tried to sell me a 2,000 or 4,000 tea he mixes that would save my life. I told him i would speak to my oncologist about it and NEVER heard from him again..sickening as it is people pray on desperate hurting people.
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Re: "Sheila Says", and the Psychobabble Fraudcast

Postby dmac » Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:29 pm

SoCal, my family has suffered numerous odd cancers as a result of being poisoned by the US military. My best advice is to pay attention to all the meds and look for contraindications. The oncologist, your GM, and even your pharmacy can aid in looking for signs that the drugs won't work properly unless doses and timings are shifted- or if they work together at all. Also, take all advice about what foods to avoid, like Vit-K foods, as the results of eating the wrong foods can be disastrous.

And, yeah, when I saw the 'mentalists' at the beginning of Pt 2, the penny dropped for me that Josh is a fucking fraud.
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Re: "Sheila Says", and the Psychobabble Fraudcast

Postby dmac » Mon Mar 12, 2018 11:36 pm

SoCal, my family has suffered numerous odd cancers as a result of being poisoned by the US military. My best advice is to pay attention to all the meds and look for contraindications. The oncologist, your GP, and even your pharmacist, can aid in looking for signs that the drugs won't work properly unless doses and timings are shifted- or if they work together at all. Also, take all advice about what foods to avoid, like Vit-K foods, as the results of eating the wrong foods can be disastrous.

Find a pharmacist that knows what they're doing and is conversant. One at a K-Mart (believe it or not!) has saved my nephew's life by recognizing clashes in meds the doctors ignored. When prescribed a new med, ask your doctors AND the lead pharm about contraindications, timings (food/no food), and dietary constraints. The drugs cost more than, say, a soda, so avoid the damned corn syrup poisons which dominate our shit food supply. Eat fresh foods, no cans or bags or boxes.

And, yeah, when I saw the 'mentalists' at the beginning of Pt 2, the penny dropped for me that Josh is a fucking fraud.

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Re: "Sheila Says", and the Psychobabble Fraudcast

Postby Socal67 » Tue Mar 13, 2018 11:33 am

DMAC thanks and I understand exactly what you're saying. I've got a drawer full of medicine that I either looked into and chose not to take or tried it didn't work so I didn't take it. It makes so much more sense that I should probably talk to my pharmacist so I'm not wasting $15 a pop. Example: I get horrible muscle spasms and I have 7 bottles of medicine with one pill missing cause the shit dont work.
Im going to look into corn syrup like you mentioned. I take advice from intelligent people not looking to make money from my condition.
Bottom line is I have stage 4 lymphoma, it entered my bone marrow which is rare and a gasterial tumor that was the size of a football and a bunch of other shit.I was diagnosed December 2016, I'm not supposed to be alive and I know it. I don't look for pity but instead ways to fight this shit and live through it so any knowledge you have I will not only listen to but use. I have an 8 year old granddaughter that NEEDS me to be alive.
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Postby dmac » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:50 am

I do NOT want you to take away the wrong message.

I don't take pills I know I don't need.

Your specific condition calls for a cocktail of drugs: together they work, take away any element and you're wasting your time.

Discuss the stuff you MUST take, put to the sidelines shit you can do without. And don'ty consider, for instance, Metoprolol is just a beta-blocker when, in fact, it's primary use is to lower blood pressure.

I'm asking you to get ADVICE on contraindications. Pay attention to any possible reactions (rashes, lightheadedness, proclivity to log onto this shit site).

TAKE THE DRUGS as you are probably on a cocktail. Remove one and the rest are negatively impacted.

Many may think I'm anti-LE. No. Just anti-scum. Don't let a doc slip up and poison you, but understand the cocktails they give you, and avoid the other pills you don't necessarily need.

I avoid NSAIDS and pain pills and muscle relaxants. Hundreds of them in a box, as I don't see a direct benefit from using them.

Do you have a BP cuff?
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Re: "Sheila Says", and the Psychobabble Fraudcast

Postby dmac » Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:02 am

FYI, I was a late-term friend of Chesley Millicam a raconteur and self-made Brit in Austin. He was Stevie Ray Vaughn's manager, and knew well my boys, Faces. Ian McLagan set me up to speak with him about the BBC/VH1 film we made.

Chesley died of a heart attack days later (yeah, my fault), but he left me a message, He always ended with "STAY X", X being a positive filler:

"Stay Awake"
"Stay On the Pavement"
"Stay Real"
"Stay Yourself"
"Stay Safe"

Always, "Stay".

Stay.
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Re: "Sheila Says", and the Psychobabble Fraudcast

Postby Socal67 » Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:16 pm

My cockatiel was Bendeka, Nuelasta and Rituxin, did that for 6 and a half months. Neulasta is a horrible drug that enters the bone marrow and is so painful( hurts your leg bone on 1 side so bad theres no way not to take pain medicine) . I tried and broke my back tooth gritting my teeth from pain and I can't get any dental work done because of bacteria. Now I'm only on Rituxin for the next 2 years given through infusion.
My attitude is that I'm not going to die, I know my chances were slim and here I am.
My granddaughter told me " if I died shed never be able to stop crying" so i fought like hell and changed my entire attitude. I was dying and I knew it and I'd been so sick and in so much pain I was just letting go.
My granddaughter actually NEEDS me alive and needs my protection. I listen to people who are intelligent and people who have beat cancer. I will say this, In order to survive you have to believe you are going to live and not give up or in to the disease.
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Postby dmac » Wed Mar 14, 2018 3:56 pm

We're Downwinders, and almost every base we lived on is now a Big Dig. We were basically drinking water from a table that was tainted by jet fuel and cleaning solvents. My dad died of three very rare cancers, from being in the USAF. They killed him in Nam, then murdered him again 30 years on. My sister had an incredibly rare breast cancer, also known to be related to both downwinders and USAF Big Digs, but she was much younger. It nearly got her but, as she said, "cancer picked the wrong bitch to fuck with!"
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Re: "Sheila Says", and the Psychobabble Fraudcast

Postby leenie963 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:49 am

Socal67 wrote:My cockatiel was Bendeka, Nuelasta and Rituxin, did that for 6 and a half months. Neulasta is a horrible drug that enters the bone marrow and is so painful( hurts your leg bone on 1 side so bad theres no way not to take pain medicine) . I tried and broke my back tooth gritting my teeth from pain and I can't get any dental work done because of bacteria. Now I'm only on Rituxin for the next 2 years given through infusion.
My attitude is that I'm not going to die, I know my chances were slim and here I am.
My granddaughter told me " if I died shed never be able to stop crying" so i fought like hell and changed my entire attitude. I was dying and I knew it and I'd been so sick and in so much pain I was just letting go.
My granddaughter actually NEEDS me alive and needs my protection. I listen to people who are intelligent and people who have beat cancer. I will say this, In order to survive you have to believe you are going to live and not give up or in to the disease.



Truly heart wrenching the affects of cancer. I'm currently a care giver and have done my best to educate myself on what my loved one (stage 4 metastasized lung cancer) is going through physically and emotionally. A recent quote in the news was amazing and I wanted to reach out to you...
“My advice to other disabled people would be, concentrate on things your disability doesn’t prevent you doing well, and don’t regret the things it interferes with. Don’t be disabled in spirit, as well as physically,”
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Re: "Sheila Says", and the Psychobabble Fraudcast

Postby Socal67 » Thu Mar 15, 2018 7:15 pm

Thanks Leenie. I dont want this forum to be about me so I'm not going to bring it up anymore. I tried reading and educating myself about my disease and the more i read the worse I became emotionally so i stopped and started reading and directing my attention elsewhere and started looking into the ways I could help or make a difference one day.
I think DMAC pretty much has this case solved but needs a little more evidence and he's got it in a bag.
I spend my time reading and reading and can't stop..im hooked. This keeps my mind off my reality and I'm going to keep reading till theres nothing more for me to read.
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Postby Ausgirl » Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:30 am

Socal67 wrote: I tried reading and educating myself about my disease and the more i read the worse I became emotionally so i stopped and started reading and directing my attention elsewhere


I had 10cms of cancer in my left breast six weeks ago... and now I don't. Of course, I also don't have a left breast anymore, but small prices, etc. I know -exactly- what you mean about feeling worse the more you read. There's some kind of line there, between sensible information-seeking and abject masochism -- a bit like this case, heh.

Anyway, welcome, hope you stick around.

(in every sense of the term)

edit: and cripes, Leenie, sorry to hear about your situation. Gotta be one tough cookie to take on the role of carer, it can't be easy on any level.
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Re: "Sheila Says", and the Psychobabble Fraudcast

Postby Socal67 » Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:47 pm

Augsgirl( probably spelled wrong)
What are they going to do do to treat you? I know they removed your breast but are they going to do chemo?
I was really sick( of course) before i was finally diagnosed, I had a good sized lump in my breast so I believed for a while it was breast cancer, I read up on breast cancer and saw that after removing the breast and treatment most end up with a new pair of boobies.
Just to add some humor to your condition (if you choose of course) I realized after all the HELL you have to go thru from treatment ECT of BC the end result would be a nice new pair of perky taataa's and I was pretty excited about that. Cant believe i just wrote that.
What is your treatment going to be? If you don't mind me asking?

I had 10cms of cancer in my left breast six weeks ago... and now I don't. Of course, I also don't have a left breast anymore, but small prices, etc. I know -exactly- what you mean about feeling worse the more you read. There's some kind of line there, between sensible information-seeking and abject masochism -- a bit like this case, heh.

Anyway, welcome, hope you stick around.

(in every sense of the term)

edit: and cripes, Leenie, sorry to hear about your situation. Gotta be one tough cookie to take on the role of carer, it can't be easy on any level.[/quote]
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Postby Ausgirl » Sat Mar 17, 2018 4:57 pm

No chemo, no radiation... totally dodged the cancer bullet in that regard, it was a slow grower and they're confident they got it all. Yup, new boob is on the cards, and a free tummy tuck with it.

There is no way on this green earth that this case is gonna outlive me, ha. I'm damn well going to be here when the prison doors close on all the ones they can put away.
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Re: "Sheila Says", and the Psychobabble Fraudcast

Postby Socal67 » Sat Mar 17, 2018 6:00 pm

Ausgirl wrote:No chemo, no radiation... totally dodged the cancer bullet in that regard, it was a slow grower and they're confident they got it all. Yup, new boob is on the cards, and a free tummy tuck with it.

There is no way on this green earth that this case is gonna outlive me, ha. I'm damn well going to be here when the prison doors close on all the ones they can put away.


Ausgirl
I love your attitude and it's just that kind of thinking that will keep you alive and going strong. I'm also going to see the day the remaining people responsible go before a judge and be held accountable.
Ausgirl whats your opinion of sue as a parent?
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Re: "Sheila Says", and the Psychobabble Fraudcast

Postby Boudreaux » Sun Apr 01, 2018 11:46 am

Socal67 wrote:Just to add some humor to your condition (if you choose of course)


Humor is the only way to cope For three years I was in and out of a hospital, having surgery on faulty plumbing in my legs A year ago they finally fixed my right leg's problems by cutting it off. Now I wear a prosthetic foot at the end of a foot of stainless pipe that runs up to the gadget on my stump that keeps the whole thing attached to me.

My fake foot looks very real. I tell people the reason I put a rubber sandal on it is for traction and rain-proofing. But the real reason I did it is the looks I get from people when they see me walking in the snow, one snug foot in leather and one sandal with what looks like a real foot. :-) This is good for LOTS of laughs--for me, of course.

About twice a month, on an elevator at work, someone will point at the fake foot (thinking it's real) and ask, "Doesn't your foot get cold like that?" And I pull my pantleg up enough to show the stainless pipe replacing my leg and say, "No, this one never gets cold, but I DO have to change the oil every 5000 miles." :-)

Life is grim and serious enough as it is; I'm gonna thumb my nose at fate and laugh at EVERYTHING I can until they put the tag on my toe :-) (My real toe, probably--the fake foot may not go with me to the morgue.) :-)
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Re: "Sheila Says", and the Psychobabble Fraudcast

Postby Boudreaux » Mon Apr 02, 2018 3:13 am

Socal67 wrote:My cockatiel was Bendeka, Nuelasta and Rituxin, did that for 6 and a half months. Neulasta is a horrible drug that enters the bone marrow and is so painful...


Socal67, I know that stuff is tough, but Rituxan will help keep down the disease. And Nulasta (filgrastim) is REALLY important even if it hurts--it makes your marrow produce more white cells, to get your "ANC" (absolute neutrophil count) up. If you don't have enough neutrophils, an infection can carry you away. :-( I know it's tough but hang in there. And TELL the doctors if you need more pain control. You do not get Brownie Points for enduring pain, and you shouldn't HAVE to endure any more than absolutely necessary. Best wishes.
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Re: "Sheila Says", and the Psychobabble Fraudcast

Postby Boudreaux » Mon Apr 02, 2018 1:49 pm

dmac wrote:, and knew well my boys, Faces. Ian McLagan set me up to
Stay.


OK, I *really* apologize for taking this so far off topic, but it seems like NOBODY knows Faces these days, and that was a *great* band. You knew them? Worked with them? Did you wear a three-button handmedown? :-)
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